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Governor downs two bills on illegals, OKs bill barring cities from funding facilities for illegals
Sierra Vista Herald, Sierra Vista Arizona (Capital Media Services) ^ | May 21,2005 | Howard Fischer

Posted on 05/21/2005 2:53:18 PM PDT by AZHua87

PHOENIX - Gov. Janet Napolitano refused Friday to let state lawmakers expand Proposition 200.

The governor vetoed legislation that would require proof of legal presence in the United States to enroll in adult education classes and get state-subsidized child care.

HB 2030 also would have required those not here legally to pay the higher tuition at state universities and community colleges normally charged only to people who are not Arizona residents.

Napolitano said it was that last provision that prompted the veto.

"While I agree that public programs should not be available to those who consciously decide to come here illegally, this bill goes too far by punishing even long time residents of this state who were brought here as small children by their parents," the governor wrote.

Napolitano said this isn't a partisan issue. She pointed out that U.S. Sen. Orrin Hatch, R-Utah, has proposed legislation to allow some students who have grown up in this country to apply for residency. It also would encourage states to let these youngsters pay the lower in-state tuition.

But Rep. Tom Boone, R-Glendale, said there is no reason to allow people who brought their children here illegally pay a lower tuition than families who came here from another state.

Boone, who sponsored the legislation, also was unsympathetic to the claim that the children should not be penalized for the decisions of their parents to violate federal immigration laws.

"Parents may poor choices for their children every day," Boone said. "The kids always suffer."

Several Democrats had sought to create an exception for children who had been in Arizona schools for at least six years and whose parents could prove they had paid taxes here. Boone said that made no sense as there is no way to prove paying sales taxes and illegal entrants don't file state tax returns.

The governor also quashed related legislation that would have allowed state and local police to enforce federal immigration law.

SB 1306 was opposed by virtually every police agency in the state as a bad idea because it would ruin any working relationship their officers have with immigrant communities. But the governor cited an even more basic reason for her action: the failure of lawmakers to provide those agencies with more money.

"The cost of training state and local law enforcement officers in immigration law enforcement, however, would be significant," Napolitano wrote. "The Department of Public Safety estimates its training costs alone at $10 million and the City of Phoenix estimates its costs at $19 million."

Napolitano agreed to sign HB 2592 that prohibits cities from spending money to build or maintain labor centers that facilitate the hiring of undocumented workers.

"It is inappropriate to use public tax dollars to facilitate the hiring of persons who are not lawfully present in the United States," the governor said. Napolitano said this helps address the demand side of the equation: that private companies hire undocumented workers.

That measure, however, may have little practical effect as it would require someone to first prove that the city council intended to help illegal entrants get jobs - as opposed to others here legally looking for daily labor.

But she vetoed, for the second time this session, legislation to require people to produce some sort of identification even to obtain a provisional ballot.

Until now, these ballots - which are separately verified by matching signatures on voter rolls - had been available to anyone showing up at the polls whose right to vote was in question. But backers of Proposition 200 pointed out that measure requires ID to cast a ballot.

The governor, however, said SB 1186 not only goes beyond the mandate in the initiative but would deny the right to vote to people whose IDs may have been recently stolen.

But Kevin Tyne, deputy secretary of state, said the legislation simply implemented the will of Arizona voters in Proposition 200 to require that anyone who wants to cast a ballot must first provide at least some proof of identification.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Front Page News; Government; Mexico; News/Current Events; US: Arizona
KEYWORDS: adulted; aliens; ids; illegalalien; napolitano; phoenix; prop200; senhatch; tuition
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The governor also quashed related legislation that would have allowed state and local police to enforce federal immigration law.
1 posted on 05/21/2005 2:53:19 PM PDT by AZHua87
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To: HiJinx; Spiff; idratherbepainting; JackelopeBreeder; AZHSer; Sabertooth; Marine Inspector; ...

Border and AZ Ping


2 posted on 05/21/2005 2:53:45 PM PDT by AZHua87 (Insurgent BloggerVet!)
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To: AZHua87

She's still channeling Fat George I see...


3 posted on 05/21/2005 2:54:32 PM PDT by mewzilla
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HB 2030 also would have required those not here legally to pay the higher tuition at state universities and community colleges normally charged only to people who are not Arizona residents.

Am I missing something here? People not here legally should be deported.

4 posted on 05/21/2005 2:56:32 PM PDT by SamAdams76 (Don't You Think This Outlaw Bit's Done Got Out Of Hand?)
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To: AZHua87

She's an idiot! Just like WA Fraudoire!


5 posted on 05/21/2005 2:56:35 PM PDT by lilylangtree (Veni, Vidi, Vici)
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To: mewzilla

Or is M. MarOOOOON?!


6 posted on 05/21/2005 2:59:06 PM PDT by AZHua87 (Insurgent BloggerVet!)
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To: AZHua87

Protect our borders and coastlines from all foreign invaders!

Be Ever Vigilant!

Minutemen Patriots ~ Bump!


7 posted on 05/21/2005 3:00:09 PM PDT by blackie (Be Well~Be Armed~Be Safe~Molon Labe!)
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To: lilylangtree

She's a Dem so your point is? What do you expect? Of course she's an idiot.


8 posted on 05/21/2005 3:00:48 PM PDT by AZHua87 (Insurgent BloggerVet!)
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To: gubamyster

ping


9 posted on 05/21/2005 3:01:11 PM PDT by DumpsterDiver
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To: AZHua87

Bienvenidos a Aztlan. Oprima el numero dos para ingles.


10 posted on 05/21/2005 3:01:51 PM PDT by Travis McGee (----- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com -----)
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To: blackie
Store here in town is selling Bumper Stickers that say

King George III didn't like the Minute Men either.

11 posted on 05/21/2005 3:04:37 PM PDT by AZHua87 (Insurgent BloggerVet!)
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To: AZHua87

Roger That ~ I love it!! :)


12 posted on 05/21/2005 3:06:01 PM PDT by blackie (Be Well~Be Armed~Be Safe~Molon Labe!)
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To: AZHua87

Sure, she's running again and her only hope of re-election is the illegal vote.


13 posted on 05/21/2005 3:09:59 PM PDT by McGavin999
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and that the Marriage ammendment is not on the ballot. If the marriage ammendment is on the ballot she's burnt toast.


14 posted on 05/21/2005 3:11:59 PM PDT by AZHua87 (Insurgent BloggerVet!)
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To: McGavin999

Who are you kidding? The AZ Republican Party can't even field a decent candidate against her.


15 posted on 05/21/2005 3:13:08 PM PDT by marajade (Yes, I'm a SW freak!)
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To: AZHua87
King George III didn't like the Minute Men either.

LOL. I read their mind! :)

16 posted on 05/21/2005 3:16:10 PM PDT by mewzilla
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To: AZHua87

SB 1306 was opposed by virtually every police agency in the state as a bad idea because it would ruin any working relationship their officers have with immigrant communities. But the governor cited an even more basic reason for her action: the failure of lawmakers to provide those agencies with more money.

1. Since when does the law need a "good working relationship" with a criminal community????

2. Since when does law enforcement require additional funds to enforce individual laws??? "Sorry, you didn't fund that law, we won't enforce it." Bullshit. That's like saying, "I can't arrest you for DUI, because I drink personally, and I don't believe in enforcing that law."

How many times is this woman going to ignore the will of the voters down there?


17 posted on 05/21/2005 3:18:05 PM PDT by datura (Fix bayonets. Seal and Deport.)
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To: AZHua87

Bounce her out of the mansion.


18 posted on 05/21/2005 3:21:25 PM PDT by bayareablues
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To: datura

Until we vote her out of office and not then until the new governor is sworn in.


19 posted on 05/21/2005 3:26:28 PM PDT by AZHua87 (Insurgent BloggerVet!)
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To: bayareablues

Many of us plan to try damn hard to do just that.


20 posted on 05/21/2005 3:27:07 PM PDT by AZHua87 (Insurgent BloggerVet!)
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