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Oregon tests novel mileage tax
Stateline.org ^ | 050520 | agitator

Posted on 05/21/2005 8:56:17 AM PDT by agitator

Oregon tests novel mileage tax


In 1919, Oregon was the first state to tax gasoline. This fall, the state will launch the nation's first high-tech experiment to tax drivers for the miles they travel rather than the gas they buy.

The program is the first step in a long-term plan to replace the state's gasoline tax, which pays for about 40 percent of Oregon 's road projects. As in many states, Oregon officials are worried gas tax revenues won’t be able to keep up with the rising costs of road building, especially with improved mileage from both traditional and hybrid cards.

Driver advocates and environmentalists said they will be watching the new program to make sure that it charges drivers fairly and that it does not give consumers an excuse to keep driving gas-guzzling cars.

Testing will start in September when the state transportation department plans to equip 20 privately owned cars with electronic odometers to record their mileage at gas stations. When drivers fill up, specially equipped gas pumps will read the mileage and charge 1.2 cents for every mile driven instead of the state's tax of 24 cents per gallon of gas.

The cars also will have Global Positioning Systems (GPS) so drivers will not be charged for driving outside state borders -- the tax is only meant to be applied for use of Oregon roads. Tracking cars' locations also could allow extra fees for traveling in congested traffic areas or during rush hours. Drivers also could be charged less if their car is more fuel-efficient, said James Whitty, manager of the Oregon Department of Transportation division that is overseeing the project.

A bigger, year-long test of 280 cars is scheduled to start in March 2006. After that, the state transportation department will make recommendations to the Legislature on whether to phase in the new-fangled tax statewide, possibly over 20 years to ease privacy concerns and spread out the costs of the new technology.

Elliott Eki, spokesman for the Oregon AAA, said the state absolutely needs to find a new source of money to build roads and bridges. But charging drivers more for driving in congested areas could force more people to use neighborhood streets to avoid extra fees.

Chris Hagerbaumer, a transportation specialist with the nonprofit Oregon Environmental Council, said the state should impose such a new tax slowly. "The issue is, if we make a flat switch, we would lose the incentives for people to purchase fuel-efficient cars," she said.

The mileage tax was the main recommendation of a 2001 state task force studying new ways to pay for road projects, which rely heavily on gasoline taxes. Those fees lost much of their purchasing power as the inflation of the 1970s and 1980s increased the costs of road projects. At the same time, carmakers began to slowly improve fuel efficiency, so that drivers were, in effect, paying less to use the roads, the task force found.

Oregon raised its gas taxes six times from 1981 to 1991 to keep highway funds flush, but politicians have been unable to muster the political will for any increases since then.

In the next decade, gas tax revenues in Oregon are projected to level off, then permanently decline as rising gas prices push consumers to drive less or buy more efficient hybrid electric or other alternatively fueled cars.

Oregon Gov. Ted Kulongoski (D) has said his state will become the 10th to adopt more stringent auto pollution standards than the federal government, standards likely to be achieved through greater fuel efficiency.

The number of hybrid vehicles in Oregon grew by 103 percent from 2003 to 2004, the second-highest percentage increase in the nation after New Jersey, according to R.L. Polk & Co., an automotive data-collection firm. The number of hybrids increased across the nation by 81 percent over the same period, the analysts found.

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Contact Eric Kelderman at: ekelderman@stateline.org      


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KEYWORDS: bigbrother; gastax; mileagetax; transportation
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To: agitator
Oregon officials are worried gas tax revenues won’t be able to keep up with the rising costs... especially with improved mileage from both traditional and hybrid cards.

ok so let me get this straight, they are worried about getting LESS revenue from the high milage cars and saying they aren't paying their fair share... so a little farther down

Drivers also could be charged less if their car is more fuel-efficient,

ok... so just exactly WHAT is the point of this bullsh!t??? other than another layer of government waste that is...

just damn...

41 posted on 05/21/2005 10:08:42 AM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist ©®)
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To: BobL
***You WILL get BIG BROTHER if the gas tax is insufficient.***

With all due respect, it seems to me that you're under the false impression that the politicians actually spend the gasoline tax money on roads - they don't. That's the whole problem.

And remember, besides the state gas tax, there's the Federal Gas Tax which is ALSO supposed to go back to the states for the roads. But again the pol's put it into the General Fund and spend it on a host of other feel-good, do-nothing, wasteful programs for special interest groups who vote in blocks. And for a new diamond necklace for their 'secretary' Roxanne, recently of the Hi-Ho Gentleman's Club.

Oregon's GPS tax scam is just like the State Lottery (where they exist). All that money is supposed to go for "education". And the Lottery was also supposed to solve the education funding 'problem' forever - Riiiiight. As it solved it for about a month because that's how long it took the state pols to rob the Lottery Fund for their 'special programs' - and a matching diamond ring for Roxanne.

42 posted on 05/21/2005 10:15:30 AM PDT by Condor51 (Leftists are moral and intellectual parasites - Standing Wolf)
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To: norraad

The govt will keep on taxing so what's a taxpayer and consumer suppose. Any victory of tax relief, small or great, is welcomed even absurd ones.


43 posted on 05/21/2005 10:19:56 AM PDT by lilylangtree (Veni, Vidi, Vici)
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To: agitator
I have a better idea then all this fussing around with GPSes and electronic odometers.

Why don't we just send in all our money and let them return back to us what they don't feel like using? If we have enough left for gas and food we should be happy, right?

44 posted on 05/21/2005 10:26:31 AM PDT by Gritty ("The facts remain conservative. Liberal fantasy erected in their place is a death cult-Mark Steyn)
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To: eno_

45 posted on 05/21/2005 10:29:19 AM PDT by pageonetoo (You'll spot their posts soon enough!)
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To: Chode
ok... so just exactly WHAT is the point of this bullsh!t??? other than another layer of government waste that is...

Full time employment for lawyers...


46 posted on 05/21/2005 10:32:01 AM PDT by pageonetoo (You'll spot their posts soon enough!)
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47 posted on 05/21/2005 10:42:18 AM PDT by freepatriot32 (If you want to change government support the libertarian party www.lp.org)
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To: BobL
Every one of you guys that protests a hike in the gas tax brings this reality that much closer.

Interesting, just agree to ever increasing taxation, or be socked with ever increasing taxation?

The money for roads will be raised, somehow, and if you do not allow the gas tax to provide that money, you WILL get big brother in your cars.

What about making government responsible to the people?Whatever happened to a government of the people, by the people? Why lay down and be sheeple? Government should not have free reign to just take as they see fit, that was one of the reasons this country was founded, was it not?

Now, deal with that, please.

Better yet, realize it already was dealt with, when a boat load of tea was thrown into a harbor. Start voting the tax happy out and hold government responsible. Vote in representatives that will be accountable and stop the excessive waste in spending at all levels. You might be surprised at how much money there would be.

48 posted on 05/21/2005 10:42:24 AM PDT by DakotaRed
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To: agitator

Next up: Oregonians seeking bodily implants to record miles walked to help the state pay for sidewalks and parks.

WHO keeps VOTING for this stuff?


49 posted on 05/21/2005 10:45:06 AM PDT by AmericanChef
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To: agitator

I like living in Portland but I swear that if they do this I'll leave.


50 posted on 05/21/2005 10:48:36 AM PDT by 31R1O
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To: Condor51

"With all due respect, it seems to me that you're under the false impression that the politicians actually spend the gasoline tax money on roads - they don't. That's the whole problem."


...and do you really think that the money collected by this tolling scheme will go into roads? Of course not - but as the gas tax lapses we ARE enabling this scheme to take place. There is no way around it.

Some states, like Washington (from what I've heard), actually do a reasonable job of preventing diversion of gas taxes, but I'm sure there are plenty that don't.

My only point is that the gas tax has an upper limit, as people in this country will not standby for $6.00 per gallon gas, as they do in Europe, but they will pay the equivalent of $6.00 per gallon gas if it is collected as tolls, as we are now doing in Texas (and elsewhere).

You really do not want this tolling system, and anything that gives the government an excuse to impose it, just assures that it gets that much closer - and you will not be able to stop it then.


51 posted on 05/21/2005 10:51:17 AM PDT by BobL
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To: G.Mason
Round up politicians and smuggle them into Red China, selling them as slaves

Sounds like a great plan to me.

52 posted on 05/21/2005 10:53:36 AM PDT by reg45
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To: agitator

LOL, this is the greatest plan ever. Taxing gas makes so much more sense. If I drive a gas guzzling SUV 1000 miles I pay the same tax as someone driving a 50 MPG Yugo. So eventhough I consume 100 Gallons of gas and the Yugo consumes 20 Gallons, the idiot in the Yugo still has to pay the same tax! These guys penalize fuel efficency!!!


53 posted on 05/21/2005 10:53:46 AM PDT by Always Right
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To: agitator
This has nothing to do with revenue, a simple increase in gas tax would take care of that and EVERYTHING to do with control of the populous. The idea that the cars need a GPS to ensure that they are not being charged for out of state miles is insane. Plus what about the out of staters who will not have the tracking devices?

Just wait until some moron decides that the data collected can be used for "other" purposes. The mind boggles.

54 posted on 05/21/2005 10:58:01 AM PDT by getsoutalive
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To: TheOtherOne
"Are people really this stupid to ask for this crap?"

In the Socialist State of Oregon? Apparently.

55 posted on 05/21/2005 10:58:15 AM PDT by sweetliberty (Never argue with a fool. People might not know the difference.)
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To: DakotaRed

Please! Don't give them any more ideas.


56 posted on 05/21/2005 10:59:13 AM PDT by sweetliberty (Never argue with a fool. People might not know the difference.)
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To: BobL
Yes. Every one of you guys that protests a hike in the gas tax brings this reality that much closer.

Do you really believe that we don't make enough money on gas taxes to support our infastructure? I live in CA and I know we take in enough money to more than pay for new roads if the enviros would just let us do it without environmental inpact reports. We pay more than enough taxes in every state now to fund our highways.

Think about it. I don't have the figures at hand but the fact that every year we have more drivers increases the amount of revenue the states take in with regards to gas taxes. This type of tax is just another way to rip money from us. The money taken in from gas taxes is not used for building roads but spent on whatever comes to mind for the liberals.

We don't need more taxes, we need fewer and we sure as he** don't need MORE gas taxes or a road use tax added to them.

57 posted on 05/21/2005 10:59:14 AM PDT by calex59
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To: eno_

"You would be amazed..."

No I wouldn't. You can lead a horse to water but... :)


58 posted on 05/21/2005 10:59:58 AM PDT by agitator (...And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark)
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To: DakotaRed
"Interesting, just agree to ever increasing taxation, or be socked with ever increasing taxation?"

I've made my point about paying 10x as much per mile through tolling, so I won't repeat it.

However, if you can show me ONE STATE in this country where the revenue collected by the gas tax has exceeded the rate of inflation, plus the increase in population growth in the past 20 years, I might agree.

But you cannot show me that, since it hasn't happened - the gas tax is the only tax that does not have ANY built-in inflation adjustment, so it simply lapses if it is not raised by a vote (whereas virtually all other taxes will increase with inflation). And that suits the tolling community fine, as they are making more and more progress in their ultimate goal of determining when and where we drive. But it angers me, and it should anger others - but I guess not.
59 posted on 05/21/2005 11:00:02 AM PDT by BobL
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To: Always Right
"These guys penalize fuel efficency!!!"

Who says they won't. Seriously, the next step in their plan (after punishing you for not driving when and where they want you to drive) is to adjust the tolling based on the type of vehicle. This is an incredible amount of power that we're enabling government to grab, and most people arguing with me are the enablers.
60 posted on 05/21/2005 11:02:37 AM PDT by BobL
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