[TigerLikesRooster]

Ping!

[JimSEA]

"If you don't have that base line, you'll never have closure on whether there's up to two weapons' worth of plutonium floating around somewhere in North Korea,"

I am wondering just how much weapons grade uranium and plutonium could be in North Korea. Now, as the possibility of a preemptive strike seems greater, the pundit and "expert" class seems to be minimizing the potential amount as it suites their purposes.

[John Valentine]

South Korean electronics giant Samsung has launched a unilateral initiative to improve relations with the North. It has signed North Korean dancer Cho Myong-ae to promote its mobile phones. Cho will be the first North Korean to appear in an advertisement in the South.

This is a perfect example of the completely wrongheaded, even stupid, approach to North-South relations in South Korea. What is needed is South Korean propaganda in the North, not North Korean propaganda in the South.

I defy anyone to explain to me just how Samsung's move will do a single concrete thing to "improve relations with the North". How many DPRK Divisions will pull back from the DMZ as a result? How many prison camps will close? How many South Korean television channels will be carried in the North?

As I thought.

[SevenofNine]

Tiger I think you got exclusive that model are we going hear six month later that that same model going be new Mrs Kim Jong 11

I think he can get marry to this lady because last Mrs Kim Jong 11 died of car accident or cancer

I am not sure of whole story

[de Buillion]

"A nuclear arms control expert has warned that the United States might be tempted to carry out a strike on the reactor that is North Korea's source of bomb-making plutonium. "

Sounds like a plan to me.

[John Valentine]

He said a strike would almost certainly cause the antiquated North Korean reactor, whose core is shielded by graphite, to burn out, removing a scientific record of past plutonium production.

Maybe its time to resurrect the "smart spears" idea: a kinetic energy weapon, the smart spear is a 16 foot long titanium tipped, satellite guided carbon steel spear dropped from high altitude that would strike the reactor at mach 2 plus, completely penetrate, and bury itself deep beneath the reactor.

[exit82]

The word I would use is not 'tempting", but "overdue".

[The Red Zone]

What's in that vase atop Cho's head...?

[CaptIsaacDavis]

WHAT ON EARTH IS RICE TALKING ABOUT! GOD HELP US ALL IF THAT IS THE LEVEL OF ADVICE SHE IS GIVING. The end-game of the North Koreans has been made clear by defectors for years (it is to have enough to deter OUR response to a convential attack, since they could threaten to escalate to hit Japan or LA, etc.). We are "check-mated" by their having enough weapons dispersed or on submarines (turned into suicide bombers to travel to Los Angeles harbor) to survive a massive preemptive air strike and ASW campaign by us. The entire country has been building for decades towards preparing for a nuclear war (industries under ground, shelters, deep underground storage sites, pipelines underground, simply massive bunkers all over the damned place -- massive numbers of tunnels so big you can drive tanks through). A scale of preparation for nuclear war -- and, by coincidence the sort of modern war we saw in Iraq (with our PGMs/bunker busters), never before seen. They have been getting ready for decades (and especially since 1997).

We are in the middle of a major crisis situation there (with the North Koreans talking rabid -- that's why we buckled last week to meet one on one at a "low level"), and no one seems to be taking much notice here. The North is prepping to test, the talks are the moribund self-delusion of fools at Foggy Bottom, and the world knows we have no choice but to strike if they do.

One of the problems we have on our side is that we don't have enough people left who know what kinds of irrational murderous thugs rabid Communists can be. Soviet FM Gromyko once wrote about how Mao lobbied for a global nuclear war and was prepared to lose most of China's population so that they would have the most left to rule the rubble. Castro was busted in a Russian document when it was leaked he lobbied Khr. for a preemptive strike during the crisis to start a global nuclear war. You have probably read about the murderous views of Lenin, Stalin, Pol Pot, Hafiz. Amin (Afghanistan), and on and on. Now imagine a country with a million screaming fanatic Bolsheviks of the sort the Finns mowed down in the face of human wave attacks in 1939-1940, all with absolutely nothing left to lose, and you can imagine what we face in North Korea. It is NOT the USSR, with greater ambitions at risk through escalation -- even so there were still quite a few fanatic communist imperalists into the 1980s (even a former top military officer famously said on Russian TV, after the fall, that they were ruled by "crazy" men, who once talked of winning a global nuclear war [Sokolovskii, et. al.]). Here, there is nothing for many in the North to lose, except their pride and reason for living (to reunify Korea and fight against the U.S. and Japan -- and destroy the capitalist imperialist, blah, blah, blah...). The country is itself a fiction of a nation, having been ruled not by a Tito, Ho Chi Minh, Mao, etc., who came to power through guerilla movements and national struggle, but a creature installed as a puppet of Stalin's regional ambitions. That is, the propaganda and lives of top Communist Party members and military elites have been truly Orwellian -- and directed at permanent preparations for war. Why? Because that is what they were created for -- to prepare to attack in the event of a world war between East and West during the Cold War. Now, post-CW, the ambition and basis for ruling has been narrowed to reunification at any price (under an "Army First" campaign since 1997). They signaled their intent to "break out" years ago, and not just as a response to the Iraq War -- few paid attention back then. They are preparing for a decisive showdown -- and are not playing games.

Now the moment of conflict and decision has come. Does anyone honestly think they would just "play games" or wait, and give us the opportunity to strike first? What is giving up a nuclear weapon worth to them? 10 million gallons of oil for 20 years? An all-expenses paid trip to Las Vegas for Kim Jong-Il and his concubines? The concept of bartering or "negotiating" for such things is absurd on its face.

Get ready...and make no mistake, the Bush Administration LET THIS SPIN OUT OF CONTROL. So, too, did the Clinton Administration -- we should have attacked in 1992-1996 (Albright's deal was pure appeasement). All to appease the butchers of Beijing.

[AmericanInTokyo]

And, as we speak, the appeasement caravan continues from South Korea to North. This one, with fertilizer, rolling across the DMZ up towards Kim's Paradise. Shameful. Propping up the dictator like that; and feeding his 1 million man army (not that they actually EAT fertilizer but maybe they do).

Sheesh, is this any way to grow a "Peace Garden"????

[MonroeDNA]

Sounds good to me.