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Opinion by Bonnie Henry: Giant Cold War plane welcomed
Arizona Daily Star ^ | May 20, 2005 | Ernesto Portillo Jr.

Posted on 05/20/2005 7:03:17 PM PDT by AZHua87

One pilot likened it to "sitting on your front porch and flying your house around."

Another crew member called it "a horrible, lazy beast to fly."

Janet Hess has another view of the B-36 - one admittedly gained at ground level.

"I loved that plane," says Hess, who did modification work on the bomber during the early '50s.

Designed to fly long distances at high altitudes and drop nuclear payloads, the huge, 10-engine plane never did go to war.

(Excerpt) Read more at dailystar.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; Foreign Affairs; US: Arizona
KEYWORDS: b36; b52; bomber; coldwar; tucson; usaf
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To: Mr. Jazzy

They never installed a reactor to power the aircraft, but they did have a functioning research reactor in the aircraft.

It got pretty hot.

http://www.csd.uwo.ca/~pettypi/elevon/baugher_us/b036-13.html


21 posted on 05/20/2005 7:34:07 PM PDT by MediaMole
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To: MediaMole

Thanks!

I knew I had seen some info at one time about this experiment.



22 posted on 05/20/2005 7:37:26 PM PDT by Mr. Jazzy (Bumper sticker "Martyrs or Marines: Who do YOU think will get the virgins?")
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To: spanalot
Did it use turboprops

Turboprops? what new-fangled ideer is that?

6 Pratt & Whitney R-4360 Wasp Major air cooled radials - 28 cyliners/engine, 2 sparkplugs/cylinder - plug change: not a minor job

23 posted on 05/20/2005 7:37:32 PM PDT by Oztrich Boy (Rules are for the guidance of wise men and the blind obedience of fools - Solon, Lawmaker of Athens)
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To: AZHua87

I went to college with a vet who was a B36 crewman. If I remember correctly they could patrol during each flight for over a full day.


24 posted on 05/20/2005 7:38:12 PM PDT by RAY (They that do right are all heroes!)
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To: Armigerous

And another... The longest recorded B-36 flight lasted 51 hours and 20 minutes, non-stop and without being refueled.


25 posted on 05/20/2005 7:38:42 PM PDT by WSGilcrest (Twink likes it!)
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To: AZHua87

I remember as a kid growing up in Miami (near Homestead AFB) during the 50's, and hearing the occasional B-36 fly over. I could always tell by the deep, rumbling drone of the engines what it was, and I would run outside, look up to see the unmistakable outline of this huge flying behemoth overhead.


26 posted on 05/20/2005 7:39:18 PM PDT by omni-scientist
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To: omni-scientist

Childhood memories are returning for many tonight.


27 posted on 05/20/2005 7:40:30 PM PDT by AZHua87 (Insurgent BloggerVet!)
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To: AZHua87
Well, that's it. I guess I will have to spend my next vacation in Tuscon. My father was a 20 year Air Force Sergeant and I was raised on stories of the old USAF planes: the shakey, the flying boxcar, the super connie, etc.. The B-36 was king of them all. I have to see it. It is a legend.
28 posted on 05/20/2005 7:43:19 PM PDT by Law is not justice but process
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To: Armigerous

Talked to a Crew Chief at Tinker AFB years ago and he told me that the B-36 was "so much airplane" that they always had something broke when it flew.


29 posted on 05/20/2005 7:44:50 PM PDT by ANGGAPO
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To: Law is not justice but process
Now to absolutely seal the deal Pima Air and Space Museum and Davis-Montham AFB
30 posted on 05/20/2005 7:48:22 PM PDT by AZHua87 (Insurgent BloggerVet!)
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To: Armigerous

Armigerous,

I flew as an Aircraft Performance Engineer (Flight Engineer) from 1955 to 1957 on B-36's at Ellsworth AFB, Rapid City, SD. Engineers handled the six R4360's and the pilots controlled the four J-47 jets. We didn't have airial refueling but one might have been modified for it. I loved flying in that beast!

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31 posted on 05/20/2005 7:52:22 PM PDT by pitchpipe
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To: Armigerous
My Dad used to tell me some hair-raising stories about Thule AFB. My guess is it was not such a popular post.
32 posted on 05/20/2005 7:57:34 PM PDT by Law is not justice but process
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To: AZHua87
HERE'S an interesting site with B-36 crash sites that you can go explore.
33 posted on 05/20/2005 8:00:47 PM PDT by WSGilcrest (Twink likes it!)
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To: MediaMole
There were a number of variants of the B-36 planned along the way...








34 posted on 05/20/2005 8:01:48 PM PDT by orionblamblam ("You're the poster boy for what ID would turn out if it were taught in our schools." VadeRetro)
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To: clintonh8r
I lived near Carswell AFB for a while during my early childhood. I can still remember these monsters starting up and taking off over our house. The ground shook.

We lived directly across the lake from the end of the main runway. Remember that low, growling incessant bzzzzzzzzzzz they made? When they took off to the north (over the lake, then our house), the vibrations shook the house --actually shaking plates out of the kitchen cabinets.

I'll never forget the night we heard one coming down the runway...then stop. We hadn't been aware of the sound, really...until it stopped. Then, we wondered what had happened, what had we "heard".

We went out on the back porch and, there, off our dock, halfway between the two shores, was a B-36 -- in the lake, back broken, burning.

Most of the crew died in the crash. Something had gone wrong on takeoff and they had ditched the great beast in the lake, avoiding all the homes across the lake. Including us...

35 posted on 05/20/2005 8:01:55 PM PDT by okie01 (The Mainstream Media: IGNORANCE ON PARADE)
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To: orionblamblam

Don't forget about the XC-99.


36 posted on 05/20/2005 8:07:11 PM PDT by MediaMole
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To: Oztrich Boy

That's interesting. Wow, think about how long a tune-up would take!


37 posted on 05/20/2005 8:08:20 PM PDT by 68skylark
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To: Law is not justice but process

I was stationed at SondreStromFjord (Bluie
West 8) Greenland in '53/54. Also not a very popular post, although nobody was shootin' at my arse up there.


38 posted on 05/20/2005 8:08:55 PM PDT by TailspinJim
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To: Law is not justice but process

You should visit the Seattle Space Museum.


39 posted on 05/20/2005 8:09:40 PM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks
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To: pitchpipe

Aerial refueling dates back to the "Question Mark' test flight piloted by Capt. Manuel Quesada in 1936 or so when a hose was hauled in by hook from the nearby tanker and connected directly to the fuel tank. On the B-36 I mentioned. a probe was rigged to fit into the socket of the floating 'basket' that a KC-97 trailed behind it. The entire flight was a testbed for a number of systems.


40 posted on 05/20/2005 8:10:10 PM PDT by Armigerous ( Non permitte illegitimi te carborundum- "Don't let the bastards grind you down")
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