To: RusIvan
You Russians went through real hell. I bow my neck before your strength to save the national heritage of Russia. Those Bolshevic hordes, no matter Russian or Polish or else, were the worst scum of the humankind. Nationality for communists is a secondary question. All that matters is a class origin. So, if you are Russian, Polish, American, German, etc it means nothing to them. But if you are a son of e.g. a teacher, a doctor, etc. and your palms are smooth, you better run away. This way millions of Russians, intellectuals, teachers, doctors, entrepreneurs, etc. were murdered and other millions were forced to flee from their country.
The October Revolution was a great national tragedy for Russia, and then for other countries.
We the Polish barely defeated communists at the gates of Warsaw in 1920. It was Marshal Pilsudskis legions who saved Poland from communism and he was loved for it by almost all Poles. Hes loved by me as well.
Do you know that it was no less than Stalin, whose stupidity and insubordination saved Poland from communism?
The commander-in-chief of the Red Army ordered Stalins army to come to attack Warsaw, while Stalin preferred to take Lwow first. Gen. Tukhachewski had to attack Warsaw without Stalins army and finally both lost.
Theres no doubt if Stalin had moved his well trained horse cavalry army toward Warsaw, Poland would have lost.
Gen. Tukhachewski couldn'tt accept his defeat and made strong rebukes to Stalin after 1920 campaign. This made them personal enemies and when Stalin rose to power, he ordered to kill Tukhachewski together with his family, first accusing him of ...spying for Germany.
Anybody who could deny Stalins greatness was brutally annihilated. Tens of thousands of officers of the Red Army were murdered by Stalin in 1930s, just anybody who could remember Stalins defeat in 1920.
Who else left? The victorious Polish Army of 1920!
The Katyn Crime was only a logical consequence of Stalins broken pride and madness.
To make things funny, the most cruel communist criminals were not Russians, Stalin was Georgian, Dzierzhynski was Polish, etc. Russia was actually conquered by Bolsheviks in 1917-1921 and (no hard feelings please) the Russian people became slaves of the brutal communist regime. Hundreds of years of Moscow-Riazan culture was murdered overnight. Thousands of poets, writers, artists - the heart and soul of Russia were shot dead.
I think you need some 300 years to rebuild what communism destroyed in you national identity.
You survived communism, so I believe youll survive post-communism. Good luck.
76 posted on
05/21/2005 10:07:53 AM PDT by
Pomian
To: Pomian
77 posted on
05/21/2005 12:05:39 PM PDT by
lizol
To: Pomian
The commander-in-chief of the Red Army ordered Stalins army to come to attack Warsaw, while Stalin preferred to take Lwow first. Gen. Tukhachewski had to attack Warsaw without Stalins army and finally both lost.
Theres no doubt if Stalin had moved his well trained horse cavalry army toward Warsaw, Poland would have lost.==
I learned that history. I red book of Meltukhov "Soviet-Polish wars". http://militera.lib.ru/research/meltyukhov2/
It is on russian. I couldn't find it on english.
The 1st cavalry army of Budenii has to turn to Warsaw but was ordered to take Lvov instead.
Do you know that Tuckuchevskii was pole himself? Later another pole marshal Rokosovskii took Warsaw but from germans in end of 1944. This pole I very respect. Fine marshal.
You survived communism, so I believe youll survive post-communism. Good luck. ==
Russia will survive.
Accually almost everything what you say I agree. If such poles as you are majority then I presume russian-polish relations will be improved at last.
78 posted on
05/21/2005 3:37:10 PM PDT by
RusIvan
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