Posted on 05/19/2005 7:16:24 AM PDT by fanfan
Canada's Liberal government should fall tonight because its members have become renegades in power.
They are politically corrupt and out of control.
They have no vision and no guiding principles.
All they believe in is clinging to power, by any means.
They have already hijacked our democracy once, by refusing to recognize a non-confidence vote they lost last week.
Indeed, Prime Minister Paul Martin only agreed to accept the verdict of tonight's vote after carefully plotting the "winning conditions" he believes will ensure his political survival.
In this, Martin and the Liberals are no better than the Quebec separatists they claim to despise. Separatists have twice been defeated in referendums voted on by the people of Quebec.
But, just like the Liberals, they too refused to acknowledge defeat and are now plotting the "winning conditions" for a third, successful and therefore -- for them -- "final" referendum.
To better ensure his own political survival tonight -- which, sadly, seems likely -- Martin threw away the fiscal prudence he built his reputation on as finance minister and cut a $4.6-billion budget deal to buy the NDP's support. Then he bought former Conservative MP Belinda Stronach with a cabinet post.
Last night, Conservative MP Gurmant Grewal accused the Liberals of trying to buy his support in tonight's non-confidence vote with a patronage job for himself or his wife, also a Tory MP.
The Grits denied the charge, saying Grewal approached them and was rejected. In any event, we've already seen the levels to which the Liberals are prepared to stoop to save their own hides.
As for all of Martin's brave talk about ending the "democratic deficit," Canadians now know that that's all it is -- talk.
Martin's only vision for fixing our health care crisis is to keep throwing money at it, which Canadians know isn't working.
The only thing Martin and the Liberals have proven adept at is changing the subject from their own dismal record.
Just a few weeks ago, the national public debate in this country was all about Liberal corruption in AdScam and whether it was time to bring this arrogant Liberal government down.
But for tonight's vote, Martin has managed to change the subject to whether Conservative Leader Stephen Harper is fuelling separatism by voting with the Bloc to defeat the Liberals!
Think about how absurd Martin's (and Stronach's) logic is.
This is a minority parliament. The only way the Liberals can ever be defeated is if the Bloc and the Conservatives combine forces to bring them down. What Martin is really saying is that even a Liberal minority government must never be defeated -- because any attempt to do so would be allying with separatists.
Please. We're a lot tougher on separatists, whom we consider traitors, than Paul Martin is; after all, he chose a co-founder of the Bloc as his transport minister and Quebec lieutenant.
But the only reason separatist sentiment is raging in Quebec today is due to outrage over Liberal corruption in AdScam.
And however much Martin tries to run away from the truth, it's Liberals who are to blame for that. Liberals without shame.
You're on the list :-)
Makes one wonder, eh?
Eheheheh. Democratic deficit all right - Canada is a country which doesn't elect its head of state (being a constitutional monarchy), doesn't elect its cabinet (being a parliamentary system) and doesn't elect its senators (appointed by the PM or GG on advice of the PM, i forget). So anyway...
Our Senators are appointed for life, (till 75yrs. of age, which ever comes first.), by the Prime Minister.
Not that I'm anything other than 100% pro-American but, to be accurate, Canada does elect its Cabinet - or a least its members from their individual Ridings - while U.S. Cabinet members are Presidential appointees subsequently vetted and confirmed by its Senate.
well yeah, that's my point - they aren't elected to the cabinet. in a westminster system the cabinet is chosen by the prime minister. the members of the house of commons are only elected to their ridings.
odd senate you canadians have - i suppose it was designed to emulate the house of lords? except for the hereditary peerages, ehehehe. any progress on the 3E senate?
Isn't it interesting--I thought Martin was going to call an election immediately after the report.
This sounds as if he plans on continuing to stay in power after the report.
If Martin's mouth is moving, he's lying. That is the conclusion I have come to.
Hate to split hairs but ... your point is somewhat like saying that Bill Frist, as example, wasn't elected which he was to the Senate by his home state constituents but not to his subsequent position of Majority Leader within that body.
I hope your liberal government gets defeated. You Neighbors to the North deserve some good news.
I went driving in Ontario last year. Pretty country. Too pretty to be saddled with that government.
Thanks. We should know by 6:30pm est or so. I should be back online by 7pm, and will let you know. :-)
Just how socialist is your Liberal government (just to give us non-Free Dominion freepers an idea)?
Does the name Kanukistan give you any idea?
It looks like we are losing the vote. }-(
We have lost.
I'm looking to move to either Denver or Lake Tahoe/Reno after tonights vote. Canada is finished.
Could move easily to Detroit, but why move to a failing city.
I'm looking to move to either Denver or Lake Tahoe/Reno after tonights vote. Canada is finished.
Could move easily to Detroit, but why move to a failing city.
Stephen Harpers speach tonight about losing the battle, but living still to win the war, kind of helped me.
Michael Harris is on CFRA tonight, talking about the vote, and the quisling. Check it out.Go to listen live
Chin up, we lost this battle but the war rages on.
We've lots of work to do here in Ontario before the next election.
Locally I'm encouraged by the number of young people getting involved.
Last weekend we chose an energetic, young (36) man of apparent principle to run in the next campaign.
He has the potential to reach out to portions of the electorate now considered to be 'owned' by the Fiberals.
What is the status of the same-sex 'marriage' bill?
Can it be treated as a non-confidence vote?
I don't know.
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