Experts Call for Common North America Border

Yahoo - Reuters ^ | May 17, 2005 | Larry Fine

[West Coast Conservative]

The United States, Canada and Mexico should establish a common security perimeter to guard against terrorism in North America, a tri-national independent task force said in a report released on Tuesday.

The countries should police their borders together to help border trade, allow easier movement of citizens and to keep out potential security threats, the task force said at New York's Council on Foreign Relations.

"If our two borders, the one between Canada and the United States and the U.S. and Mexico, became a frontline for security the impact that would have on normal relations and economic relations would be profound," said co-chairman John Manley, a former Canadian deputy prime minister and minister of finance.

The task force was sponsored by private groups in each of the three countries including the U.S. Council on Foreign Relations, and there was no indication that governments would act on the proposals.

The report, titled "Building a North American Community," also called for free movement within the continent for citizens through a North American Border Pass with biometric identifiers and other measures to increase economic and military cooperation between the countries.

William Weld, a former Republican governor of Massachusetts, and Pedro Aspe, former finance minister of Mexico, were the other co-chairmen of the task force, comprised of over 20 experts from government, business and academia.

Manley contrasted the scrutiny of goods flowing between Canada and the United States with a lax attitude to imports arriving at shipping ports.

"As I told my one-time U.S. counterpart (U.S. Homeland Security chief) Tom Ridge once, 'You inspect a grain car entering the U.S. from Saskatchewan closer than you do container traffic coming into the United States from the Middle East.' And I think that's still the case."

Other recommendations included improving labor mobility, developing an energy strategy with greater emphasis on reducing harmful emissions and establishing an investment fund to build infrastructure to connect Mexico's poorer regions in the South to the market of the North.

[mthom]

"It is about "pushing out the borders"."

Lets think ahead. What should we call this new country? Who should write its constitution?

[LibertarianInExile]

How about we build a secure U.S. border first?

[LibertarianInExile]

I thought his name was Fein.

[texastoo]

How do you llike my new tagline? I have to give credit to b4ranch. I think we all need to use it.

Look what I found today on the NAFTA website. A new borderless map which explains "migrants workers rights". NAFTA explains to the migrants that they don't have to have legal documents to work in the US. This also tells what benefits they are "entitled" to and explains how to find migrants health care clinic.

NAFTA also pushes the UN in some of their papers. Your article is a good one.

http://www.naalc.org

[texastoo]

I forgot to add to click on the table of contents after you click on the map. This is an eye-opener site.

http;//www.naalc.org This is the official website of NAFTA

[mississippi red-neck]

20 experts from government, business

These are the two entities who are deliberately destroying our borders, our National Identity, and our Constitution.

This is so we will no longer be an individual and free country governed by our Constitution, but only one of the states in a global federation subject to laws,regulations and taxes.

It's already well on it's way. That's why our borders are open and will not be closed barring a national event or calamity.

The Bible has been saying it was coming and we're seeing it take shape.

[garandgal]

Follow the link in 124....we are a "territory"! I'm speechless.

[ARCADIA]

What makes you think Mexico or Canada would be any easier?

To begin with; the cultural and economic gap between Canada and North America is vitually non-existent. We have been pretending that there is a border there for nearly a century. But, with the exception of Quebec which is a little weird for us, and a little wierd for most of Canada too, we are family. I doubt we will see a bullet fired in that one, just one big reunion party with plenty of apple pie and maple syrup.

As for the southern border, we already have 10% of the Mexican population living here. They are voting with their feet and marching this way. Like Canada the cultural gap is not very big. The US, especially in the South and Southwest, are already more or less bi-lingual; the problem there is about dealing with corruption and the influence of drug smuggling. While the economic differences are larger they are not insurmountable. I don't see much shooting on that side either, unless it applied after judicial due process.

In all fairness I was not in Vietnam, but it is my impression that we never had a problem taking rice pattys. Our real problem was that we could never decide whether we wanted to win the war or sell more hardware, so we were hesitant to hit at the enemies vitals. I am sure that we will not be traveling that road anytime soon. For one thing we can no longer afford to indulge our military industrial complex at anything like the perverse scale which occurred during that conflict.

Over the next few years we are all going to be forced to make a choice. We can either deploy large numbers of troops to guard our extended borders, or we can do a real merger and find something better to do with those funds.

[getgoing]

Nope, need to control the border..."Posada said he crossed the Texas border in a vehicle with a migrant smuggler at Brownsville. He and the smuggler made their way to Houston, he said."(1) Federal interior enforcement In Texas? We've got MS-13, 18th ST, LKs, etc + "Palestinian Gang Plots Assassination of Ft. Worth Cop, Federal Agent".(2) Note, local LEO V HAMAS AND HEZBOLLAH. We are screwed.

Homeland Security has better things to do. Immigration control doesn't make their priority list. (3)

The White House.(4)

Thanks to loyal House members who pushed the ID Bill through over Senate objections (5) & appear to understand we are the next Kosovo: `North American Cooperative Security Act' Senate Bill S.853 introduced by Lugar on 4/40/2005:
www.theorator.com- search: bills109/s853.html http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/z?c109:S.+853:
http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/r?r109:@OR+(+@1(S.+853)++)
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(1)http://www.miami.com/mld/miamiherald/11663701.htm? template=contentModules/printstory.jsp
(2) http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1403707/posts
(3)DEPT OF HOMELAND SECURITY-Bureau of Customs and Border Protection Commissioner Bonner: "The priority mission of BCBP is to prevent terrorists and terrorist weapons from entering the United States. That extraordinarily important priority mission means improving security at our physical borders and ports of entry, but it also means extending our zone of security beyond our physical borders – so that American borders are the last line of defense, not the first line of defense." http://appropriations.senate.gov/text/hearmarkups/record.cfm?id=203798
Bonner: "At BCBP, we know that we must perform both our priority and traditional missions without stifling the flow of legitimate trade and travel. We have twin goals: (1) increasing security, and (2) facilitating legitimate trade and travel. http://hsc.house.gov/testimony.cfm?id=16
(4)http://www.mca.gov/about_us/overview/index.shtml
(5) Cornyn Amdt. 372 to stop Sensenbrenner Bill418-REAL I.D. ACT2005 http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/vote_menu_109_1.htm
(6) House Passes Tough Anti-Gang Legislation http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2005/05/11/national/w151101D43.DTL

[ARCADIA]

What should we call this new country? Who should write its constitution?

How about calling it the US and keeping the existing constitution. Why would we want to change it? It is not like anyone is jumping the fence to leave this place.

[Happy2BMe]

Experts Call for Common North America Border The Overthrow of AZTLAN

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[international american]

Yeah, below the surface we pay through the friggin nose, and end up like Mexico.

"allow easier movement of citizens "

Translation: A one way trip ticket of Mexico's great unwashed, to the High Temple of American welfare.

[international american]

"and shall protect each of them against Invasion;"'

All but forgotten......

[Phsstpok]

Sponosred by the CFR?

Gee, I wonder if there was a pre-determined outcome? (/sarcasm)

[international american]

I Claudius

BTTT

[metesky]

Bill Weld? What a hoot. He thought Bubba was gonna make him ambassador to Mexico until he stepped on Jesse Helms's toes.

One thing you can count on about self-proclaimed "experts": they ain't.

[Travis McGee]

119 is exactly correct. First it will be the "North American Union" rammed down our throats stage by stage. Eventually the elites will attempt to roll the old USA into the "AU" or "American Union." The old USA will just be on region of this "AU." And in fact, it won't even need to be the entire 50 united states anymore. Any subdivisions of the old USA will fit into the AU just fine.

[Travis McGee]

Border? What border?

[Travis McGee]

Quisling: a synonym for traitor, someone who collaborates with the invaders of his country.

[Jack Black]

I'm all for it. Let's officially extend the borders, language, government, customs and Constution to the two new US States Canada and Mexico. We can tolerate 4 more Senators I guess. Mexico = North Dakota. Sorry N.D.