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To: WilliamofCarmichael
I understand your points, and don't necessarily disagree with much of it, but the alternative to your extreme analysis would have been to boycott or tariff or not trade with China, and watch them become a giant North Korea.

So, I see this as a game of chess which we can always take out their 'king' if necessary. They cannot do the same.

We need to ratchet the pressure on their Chicom govt slow, steady, and non-stop, until they collapse and the rebuilding begins.

Checkmate.

72 posted on 05/17/2005 9:12:20 PM PDT by NewLand (Faith in The Lord trumps all!)
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To: NewLand
RE: extreme analysis and China as a giant North Korea

During the Cold War the progressives and the internationalist Rockefeller Republican "free traders" argued strongly for trade with the Soviet Union. We must trade and help the "moderates" lest we play into the hands of the "hard liners" and we cause a war, they warned.

Better minds prevailed perhaps because those very same minds had experience defeating enemies. Not so today and thus we should be reminded that, extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice.

China, a people with no history of a social contract and respect for the individual, is going to become a western-style, free market democracy? All we have to do is more "free trade" transfer of technology, wealth, and jobs? Sure.

I think that this article

http://www.bolshevik.org/1917/no26/no26china.html

published by the International Bolshevik Tendency (IBT) describes what is more likely to happen. I hope so.

To wit, a second communist revolution ending Deng's version of Lenin's New Economic Plan (NEP). The reference to NEP is mine.

End the corruption of "socialism with Chinese characteristics" the revolutionary way, exterminate the new "landlords" and the traitors to the Revolution.

Then seize what the western "useful idiots" have provided and continue the march to international socialism.

Let them defeat themselves fighting for two versions of socialism. We have no will to do it, we rush to sell them rope.

The IBT is a revolutionary socialist organization founded by former cadres of the international Spartacist tendency (today the International Communist League).

98 posted on 05/18/2005 6:13:40 AM PDT by WilliamofCarmichael (Goo- goo- google, good bye!)
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