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To: Brilliant
"Let them give TV's, clothing, and radios to us for free. We'll see who it's bad for."

That sort of argument is akin to telling a dope junkie that his "high" is bad...no one in that position would believe such a thing.

Of *course* consumers want nearly-free consumer goods. That's not in question. It's not even debatable.

It's the *other* side of the equation that isn't being mentioned by such an argument, however...

...the business investment losses.

Because while the product dumping is going on due to this currency manipulation, the clear way to "compete" is to invest in China. If you can't beat them, join them and all of that nonsense.

Which means that new investment Dollars are pouring into China...Dollars that would have gone into U.S. investments if China wasn't subsidizing their exports by under-valuing their Yuan.

...And it's the loss of those business investments to China that is bad, not the (nearly) free products that we get from China.

Lose enough of those investments and suddenly we've just "sold" an entire market monopoly to China in exchange for saving a few pennies on a knife at Wal-Mart.

And losing an entire market means that China will be able to set prices in the future...the goal of every monopolist.

Worse, it means that more and more U.S. Dollars are leaving our domestic Magic Dollar cycle...diluting our own financial leverage.

When our Magic Dollar leverage is factored in, and when our lost business investments are factored in, suddenly those "free" TV's aren't so free anymore.

Which is the same thing that the dope junkie learns when the last high runs out.

56 posted on 05/17/2005 8:05:09 PM PDT by Southack (Media Bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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To: Southack

"Business losses..."

You don't get my point. What business losses? All the American TV companies that will be driven out of business? All the American radio companies? All the American camera companies?

I've got news for you. There aren't any American TV companies, radio companies, or camera companies. They went out of business back in the 1950's. Even Kodak relies on Chinese cameras to compete with the Japanese cameras. We don't make any of that stuff in the US. The Chinese are competing with the Mexicans and the Japanese, maybe the Koreans. So why do I care? Frankly, I don't.

Of course, there are a handful of pathetic American textile companies that employ primarily illegal immigrants from Mexico. They'll be hurt... But why does that justify the action you are proposing, which is bound to hurt the consumer in a big way?


63 posted on 05/17/2005 8:16:47 PM PDT by Brilliant
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