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To: oceanview

That is a good argument. Let me see if I can find a flaw in it....

Maybe if they set the peg at 0 dollars to the yuan.... That's lower, right??

So they'd be giving their stuff to us for free.

Why is that bad?


14 posted on 05/17/2005 7:12:42 PM PDT by Brilliant
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To: Brilliant

because its effect is to suck in all capital investment of western industries, pulling jobs out of those economies, as the companies search for profits from the "free stuff" they can then turn around and import tariff free.

that's why its bad. to be a consumer, I first have to have a job. to pay the costs of our government, we first have to have a tax base.


16 posted on 05/17/2005 7:17:28 PM PDT by oceanview
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To: Brilliant

why do you think china uses a currency peg? I guess they must have talked with Jack Kemp, the currency peg makes them an enterprise zone. what is the effect of the enterprise zone concept in the US, creating artificially low cost "havens" (in the case of our domestic economy, through the tax code) for businesses. what is their purpose? well, to attract capital investment of course, so that businesses will relocate into that zone. that's why China does it.

china maintains the peg because they want to suck up all US industrial investment into their country. they realize that semiconductor plants, biotech, auto production, are alot more important long term then more shopping malls and Applebees.


23 posted on 05/17/2005 7:24:26 PM PDT by oceanview
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To: Brilliant
"Maybe if they set the peg at 0 dollars to the yuan.... That's lower, right?? So they'd be giving their stuff to us for free. Why is that bad?"

It's "Bad" because that sort of product dumping causes an unhealthy addiction as well as the investment of your wealth into the wrong areas...

...For the same reason that dope pushers give away that first free sample, to get you hooked.

Well, that's what robber barrons and monopolists have done throughout history; they've been willing to endure short-term losses in order to gain a long-term lock on a Market.

Whether you are talking about railroads in 1900 or Standard Oil in 1925 or AT&T in 1950 or OPEC in 1975 or China in the 2000's, they were (and China still is) willing to lose money in the short term to gain or maintain their absolute monopolies for the long-term.

China is essentially dumping their goods on us right now, but our anti-dumping laws can't touch them because the laws didn't cover currency manipulation back when they were written. By dumping their subsidized goods onto the Market, no one else can compete with them...driving their competition out of business.

That's not capitalism. That's direct foreign government intervention into global economies to the tune of more than $195 Billion per year in currency manipulation expenses.

Of course, such low-cost goods are addictive. To the consumer, anyway. Everybody *wants* lower cost products just as the dope junkie wants another high. But that doesn't make it right, and it certainly isn't healthy for us or our long term economy.

Though granted, it's a lot of fun in the short term.

30 posted on 05/17/2005 7:38:02 PM PDT by Southack (Media Bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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To: Brilliant

Quote: So they'd be giving their stuff to us for free.
Why is that bad?


Apparantly your job is not at risk to be sent to china?


90 posted on 05/18/2005 5:26:17 AM PDT by superiorslots
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