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The Universal Pre-k advocates are out and about speaking about the Yale Center study because rather than being interested in what is best for children, they are concerned that the report will cause parents to start staying home and raising their own. God forbid. Notice that the first thing they do is ask for more money, more support services, and more training and degree programs. How we parents manage to raise 3 and 4-year olds without the "help" and intervention of preschool "experts," I will never know.
1 posted on 05/17/2005 3:40:00 PM PDT by sageb1
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kids getting the boot for everything from throwing tantrums to bringing water guns to class and cutting the wires on computer mouses

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LOL.. infrared mousies works for me..

Can the day be far off when parents will have their children removed from them at birth to be molded into superior citizens of the state?

Deja Vu..

2 posted on 05/17/2005 4:08:50 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ...... The War on Terrorism is the ultimate 'faith-based' initiative.)
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"Pre-kindergartners Left Behind," to be released today, found that pre-K students are three times as likely to be expelled as kids in other grades across the nation.

NYS already has the highest education taxes in the nation, but that is not enough. Each year, the school districts submit new school budgets averaging 7% higher than the previous one, despite hefty funding from federal and state agencies. Like a black hole, NYS Education has a insatiable appetite for more money.

Speak of the House, Sheldon Silver, has been the loudest and staunchest advocate for pre-K funding. He will read this report and proclaim .... "We need more money to correct this disparity."

3 posted on 05/17/2005 4:20:11 PM PDT by NYer ("Love without truth is blind; Truth without love is empty." - Pope Benedict XVI)
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As a former pre-k teacher, that number is far less than it should be. Kids growing up today are *brats* because their parents spoil them.


4 posted on 05/17/2005 4:21:15 PM PDT by followerofchrist
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To: sageb1

"The Universal Pre-k advocates are out and about speaking about the Yale Center study because rather than being interested in what is best for children, they are concerned that the report will cause parents to start staying home and raising their own. God forbid. Notice that the first thing they do is ask for more money, more support services, and more training and degree programs. How we parents manage to raise 3 and 4-year olds without the "help" and intervention of preschool "experts," I will never know."

I hate to say it, but preschool is a better place for the kids who get tossed. Usually it is because of poor parenting.


5 posted on 05/17/2005 4:22:26 PM PDT by followerofchrist
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"Mr. Flyer, you need to pick up your child at pre-K. He has been expelled"

Why?

"He was. . . was. . . acting like a kid!"

6 posted on 05/17/2005 4:27:46 PM PDT by Flyer (I've seen your king come and go here)
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Thanks for posting this. My grandson keeps getting sent home because he doesn't take his nap. I keep wondering how that many grown ups can't come up with a way to resolve this. His Mom (my daughter-in-law) seems to keep a good handle on things. Of course she also keeps her Marine husband in line. Trust me she ain't no lefty.
7 posted on 05/17/2005 4:28:31 PM PDT by armymarinedad (Character makes you draw a line in the dirt.)
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Well said. Bttt.

Heaven forbid their report 'accidently' show that kids do actually do better and stay in school longer and benefit from more time at home with a loving mother or father caring for them. What a nightmare for those initiating the study to find the opposite of what they expected. You know what that means, 'Hurry, raise taxes and send more money!', so they can reach more kids, earlier than ever. And let the indoctrination begin.

Maybe they can talk more of the stay at home moms into rushing back to work (yes, some of us had no choice but to work) by reminding them to 'fulfill' themselves through work. (didn't the Nazis have some expression about joy through work?) Call Oprah, get those children in daycare! (end sarcasm)

How we parents manage to raise 3 and 4-year olds without the "help" and intervention of preschool "experts," I will never know.

Shhhh. The love and attachment are the main things we give that they have been unable to duplicate. (Well, also, routine, and opportunity for real, free play and opportunity to mirror behavior and interact with people of all ages and experience a variety of daily activities and interactions, I could go on...) No amount of money, no new program, no longer school day or earlier starting age will ever substitute for that. And, in fact, as their own work shows, does more harm than good. Most of us parents know this.

9 posted on 05/17/2005 4:36:21 PM PDT by fortunecookie
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By contrast, researchers found that just one in every 2,000 K-12 students in the state is expelled.

I'm shocked that the number is that low, but it does explain a lot.

10 posted on 05/17/2005 4:39:08 PM PDT by TontoKowalski
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Ping. Check this out.


12 posted on 05/17/2005 4:43:25 PM PDT by fortunecookie
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I would think that the reason more are expelled is because pre-k programs are not mandatory. Thus, teachers and administrater are allowed to expel problem kids instead of making the other students suffer and get their education delayed. Since k-12 is mandatory, tbey have to keep problem kids in at the other student's expense. Perhaps, we should study what parents do with the kids after they are expelled. Are the bad kids reprimanded? Is it a wake up call to the parent that their kid has "issues". Or, are they going to act shocked when their kid is cuffed and stuffed in kindergarten, then sue the school.


18 posted on 05/17/2005 4:50:21 PM PDT by WV Mountain Mama (Behind every successful man is a woman rolling her eyes.)
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"Pre-kindergartners Left Behind"

The new book series from Tim LaHaye? :)


32 posted on 05/17/2005 5:49:44 PM PDT by BeHoldAPaleHorse
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