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British Lawmaker Lashes Out at Senators
AP via Yahoo! ^ | May 17, 2005 | KEN GUGGENHEIM

Posted on 05/17/2005 1:27:30 PM PDT by Brilliant

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To: cooper72

You know, he was'nt too bad either. At least he did'nt like "Bolsheviks". He sure could turn a phrase, too. That "Iron Curtain" one sure was a winner...

:)

Seriously though, I wonder what his reaction to the modern day Labor Party would be if he could see it? I suspect it would much the same as Harry Truman's would be if he was able to see the current pack of 'rats.


41 posted on 05/17/2005 2:11:14 PM PDT by L,TOWM (Liberals, The Other White Meat [Born in California, Texan by the Grace of God.])
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To: Yo-Yo
You may have noticed that yesterday's sound bite du jour was something to the effect "I haven't sold one drop of oil, and nobody bought one drop of oil from me." In a Clintonian parsing, he said nothing about receiving vouchers from Saddam, only oil itself. We shall see how things shake out.

He has also denied this as well. In fact the whole point of saying that he had never bought, sold, seen oil...etc is that he could only do it with vouchers.

42 posted on 05/17/2005 2:12:05 PM PDT by cooper72
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To: evad

Perjury isn't a legistlative thing, he would be at odds with the Judiciary.


43 posted on 05/17/2005 2:12:23 PM PDT by Dead Dog
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To: cooper72
That is my fear and as a Brit I totally loath Galloway but I have to hand it to him if one knew nothing about what was going on here and you were hearing this for the first time you would certainly be questioning the allegations against him.
44 posted on 05/17/2005 2:15:41 PM PDT by snugs (An English Cheney Chick - BIG TIME - And a Member of the Conservative Party)
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To: Brilliant

I would doubt that he is anymore innocent of being on the Iraqi payroll than Scott Ritter was. Whether Galloway actually directly received money from the sale of oil allocations may be questionable.

Both he and Ritter were long time mouthpieces for Saddam. It is well established that Ritter received money from Saddam through an Iraqi-American intermediary and the Miriam Fund was a conduit for cash to Galloway and his family.

On the issue of contempt of congress, the committee would have to find him in contempt and then persuade the AG to charge him. The US would then have to ask for the UK to send him on back.

I'd love to see Galloway in a US prison...


45 posted on 05/17/2005 2:25:42 PM PDT by telebob
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To: snugs

Yes, I thought the Senators were very poor and Galloway handled them easily. When you are a decade out with the exact dates of your main evidence, and spend 5 minutes rambling when asking a question you are not going to trouble a man vastly experienced in confrontational British politics and TV.


46 posted on 05/17/2005 2:29:13 PM PDT by cooper72
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To: jpl

"In a more sane world, he would be prosecuted within his own country, but that's not going to happen either."

Sadly, he has just been to court in the UK. He took a newspaper who levelled similar allegations against him to court for libel - he won something like £150,000 in damages. I actually am starting to believe he really did have nothing to do with any oil transfers, and this whole stupid, ill thought out senate thing has completely distracted everyones eye from the real problems with George Galaway and the appeasement he stands for.


47 posted on 05/17/2005 2:32:03 PM PDT by Brit_Guy
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To: cooper72

All other things being equal our pre-packaged, airbrushed, scripted American senators will lose out in open debate to rough and tumble British MPs. Those Brits aren't afraid to mix up it up with anyone including hecklers. Our Senators, by contrast, try to have the hecklers arrested.


48 posted on 05/17/2005 2:53:04 PM PDT by Captain Kirk
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To: Captain Kirk
All other things being equal our pre-packaged, airbrushed, scripted American senators will lose out in open debate to rough and tumble British MPs. Those Brits aren't afraid to mix up it up with anyone including hecklers. Our Senators, by contrast, try to have the hecklers arrested.

I agree. I give you an example that I previously touched on and I have noticed this in other US committees. When a Senator asks a question they don't ask one sharp, precise hard-hitting question, but ramble on about their policies for minutes on end and make five nebulous points when one crystalline sentence would do.

I think it stems from your poor political interviews on TV. In the UK there are interviewers who even interrupt the PM and look at them (politicians) as if they are pieces of s**t. This makes for good democracy.

49 posted on 05/17/2005 2:59:50 PM PDT by cooper72
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To: Brilliant
Yeah, it sounds like he's saying that the documents were forged, rather than that the documents don't support the allegations.

Galloway's problem is that he doesn't know who's got what on him. Or what else is out there. This sounds as though it may have been a fishing expedition on his part.

And maybe a warning shot across the bows of any American pol who had his/her mitts in Oil For Food.

50 posted on 05/17/2005 3:03:23 PM PDT by mewzilla
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To: cooper72
>>the Senate has no power over him even if he did lie. <<

That's what I thought.

51 posted on 05/17/2005 3:04:49 PM PDT by evad (No action to secure borders, No action on judges... NO MONEY!)
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To: Brilliant

The money was laundered. They didn't ask him if he knew any person or entity that received funds.

His wife got some as "salary" through the charity. The Senators were second rate interrogators.


52 posted on 05/17/2005 3:06:38 PM PDT by Shermy
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To: Brit_Guy

Yes. I believe it is entirely possible that this guy is innocent of taking bribe-oil from Saddam-- which just makes his servitude to Saddam all the more jaw-dropping.

If a Senator in the US were this closely allied to Saddam, it would be nothing short of scandalous-- and said Seantor would certainly not survive re-election.

Curious.


53 posted on 05/17/2005 3:06:56 PM PDT by agooga (The Kyoto Protocol will lower global temperature by .07 degrees.)
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To: Brit_Guy
>>This really is a PR disaster. I'm stunned the US let him in. <<

I'll agree with that one.

I understand if he commits a crime while on our soil he's subject to our laws but I just wasn't sure how it worked with contempt of congress.

54 posted on 05/17/2005 3:07:09 PM PDT by evad (No action to secure borders, No action on judges... NO MONEY!)
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To: Shermy
The money was laundered. They didn't ask him if he knew any person or entity that received funds. His wife got some as "salary" through the charity. The Senators were second rate interrogators.

It's strange that the UK intelligence services and the US Senate do not have proof but you do. Are you in the CIA? :)

55 posted on 05/17/2005 3:08:56 PM PDT by cooper72
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To: agooga
which just makes his servitude to Saddam all the more jaw-dropping. If a Senator in the US were this closely allied to Saddam

Maybe you are mistaking his friendship to the Arab world to Saddam. He has always called Saddam a brutal dictator.

56 posted on 05/17/2005 3:11:52 PM PDT by cooper72
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To: Brilliant

Might there also be some lingering resentment of anyone Celtic against anyone named "Norman"? Or of anyone with "Gal" in his name against anyone with "man" in his name? Twice?


57 posted on 05/17/2005 3:14:24 PM PDT by FreeKeys ("Freedom isn't for wimps." -- Neal Boortz)
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To: FreeKeys
Might there also be some lingering resentment of anyone Celtic against anyone named "Norman"? Or of anyone with "Gal" in his name against anyone with "man" in his name? Twice?

I hope that was a joke!

58 posted on 05/17/2005 3:15:22 PM PDT by cooper72
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To: cooper72

Are you saying he was not actively working in Saddam's interests?


59 posted on 05/17/2005 3:17:26 PM PDT by agooga (The Kyoto Protocol will lower global temperature by .07 degrees.)
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To: cooper72

"It's strange that the UK intelligence services and the US Senate do not have proof but you do. Are you in the CIA? :)"

It's strange why the US Senators and their staff didn't bother to read Brit news articles about his wife's salary and his expensive Portuguese villa. Many were here on FR. He admitted the "salary." BTW the wife? Yasser Arafat's niece.

The Senators were third rate. If the Jordanian gave him money he would have said it was for a different reasons. Politicians know plenty about these things. I think they weren't prepared for being put on trial themselves via various lib-buzz details.


60 posted on 05/17/2005 3:17:30 PM PDT by Shermy
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