Posted on 05/17/2005 12:34:50 PM PDT by FoxPro
These laws were made by men attempting to put into detail the laws created by God.
The Law was given to the Jews to demonstrate that it was impossible to be saved by the Law, only condemned by it.
Thanks :-)
Oh no I wasn't trying to imply you said that. Just thinking out loud. Sorry for the confusion.
Excellent website. As a Jew brought up in a non-Orthodox home and outside the Jewish community, my religious education has been more through looking up answers for questions gentiles ask than through any formal instruction. In the past several years, that has been one of my main teachers.
Ahhh. Thanks for your explanation. I reiterate that my intention was to learn, not make fun of, and thanks to you, I did.
"And frankly, I don't think God really cares a heck of a lot, or is offended very much, about oven operation on any given day."
Upon learning of the rules and tradition behind these oven guidelines, I'm inclined to agree.
I'm in big trouble if God does 'care' about such frivolities.
OK. Here's a wager:
Memorize the five books of Moses. Obey every word. Never fail to live up the the letter of every single word written. Do everything they say to do in exactly the way they say to do it. Every day.
Do this for one year.
Succeed, and then get back to me.
Don't get me started on Whirlpool!
Here's a thought- What if a microwave or oven has an auto-time feature? Couldn't an observant Jew get around the rules by programming it the day before to come on and turn off on its own during the Sabbath?
Some years ago I thought about converting but it was impossible to keep kosher in my house. Also, I attended reform congregations and the one I was going to now has mostly female rabbi staff :( It's been a while since I've immersed myself in Jewish religious texts seeing as how I couldn't remember the word 'talmud'!! LOL
Can't do it. Don't need to do it. The sin debt has been paid.
It's commemoration of the creation of the world.
G-d ceased his labors on the seventh day, and refraining from creative and productive tasks one day a week, and focusing instead on the spiritual facets of life, is a way of remembering that. And it is something that would benefit everyone, not just Jews.
There is no oral torah. There is the torah and then there are commentaries on the torah, but the torah is the Old Testament and nothing else.
Every major cooking appliance has a sabbath mode, and has had one for some time. Orthodox Jews need cooked food, too.
Serious good eats, indeed!!!
When I was expecting my youngest jedi...I craved yeasty items...like bread, doughnuts, and yes, even beer, which I normally never drink! My husband got me a six-pack of that non-alcoholic kind and it lasted the entire pregnancy.
Well, to get back on to the subject, there was an Amish bakery in Choteau, Oklahoma that had baked goods that were just scrumptious. I would drive the 45 minute drive, pick up a pie pan full of cinnamon rolls and eat the entire pan of rolls before I got home. Ha ha!
The young Amish lady that worked there was also expecting and a few months later (and 40lbs heavier) I went back and she had also had her son just a few days after I had mine.
Now my son was still nursing and I was contemplating starting him on a bit of cereal...cautiously, you know. Well, when I went in and saw her sitting there with her baby, I had to laugh. She was scooping up fingerfuls of mashed potatoes and stuffing them in her baby's mouth!
Last time I went to Choteau, that place was shut down. :-(
What can I say? We gentiles tend to be curious. :)
You apparently didn't know what God's own pronouncements were regarding fire on the Sabbath, so perhaps they're not adding as much detail as you think.
Besides, it would seem that they were on the right track, if Jesus is to be believed. His Sermon on the Mount revealed that, in fact, the spirit of the laws are far more restrictive than their simple reading suggests. Granted, he then proceeded to ridicule them for their hypocrisy, but that is a different matter.
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