Frigidaire Ovens With the Sabbath Mode Feature (G*d is in my oven)

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[mississippi red-neck]

Do they have one that faces Mecca and blows you up if you don't pray to allah five times a day?

[safisoft]

The Law was given to the Jews to demonstrate that it was impossible to be saved by the Law, only condemned by it.

Nonsense. G-d is not a sadist.

This is a common teaching in Replacement Theology. They make G-d, to be some sort of bait and switch artist.

[.38sw]

I'm going to have to bookmark this thread for the recipes. I'm not Jewish, but some of the stuff sounds pretty good. I had a Jewish cookbook when I was in college, but it must have gotten lost in one of my zillions of moves.

I'm also rather stunned at some of the posts on this thread. Why should anyone care about someone else's religious observances? My appliances (gas range, refrigerator) have Sabbath settings. I simply don't use them.

[mississippi red-neck]

I'll be damned. They do. Just looked.

It's called the "Oven of Peace".

It's in the Jewish and Christian section under "Infidel Cookware".

[hlmencken3]

They make G-d, to be some sort of bait and switch artist.

Exactly.

Like the whole thing about 'proving' that Jesus is the Messiah, and then after those pretzels of logic ***voila!***, the jeezer becomes G-d Himself, and a god-on-a-stick no less!

[familyop]

Heh...besides writing diary instead of dairy, I wrote versus (a word I've been avoiding more) instead of verses. ...trying to do several things at once here.

[supercat]

On the Sabbath, a gas flame or electric heat may not be initiated, adjusted or turned off.

I would assume there would be an exception to the rule about turning off a stove burner in case of fire or other such hazard? And that turning off a gas burner would be acceptable if something caused the burner to be extinguished?

[SJackson]

This is a common teaching in Replacement Theology. They make G-d, to be some sort of bait and switch artist.

Ouch!

[.38sw]

I guess I've just gone through my life in some kind of fog of naivete when it comes to some issues.

[supercat]

1) What does this: "The glass electric cooktops cannot be kashered for Passover" mean?

I'm not Jewish, but I think it's referring to the requirement that meat and dairy products never be allowed to contact each other. Once a bowl or plate has been used to hold meat products, some form of cleansing is required before it can hold dairy products. During passover, the rules are stricter than during the rest of the year. My interpretation of the text from the manual would be that it's possible to clean the glass surface in a manner that satisfies the requirements for most of the year, but not during passover.

Perhaps someone can correct me if I'm wrong, but what I think that means in practice is that if you never use burner 1 for dairy products, and never use burner 2 for meat products, and burners 3-4 you would sometimes use for meat and sometimes for dairy, then during most of the year you can use burners 3-4 for meat or dairy provided they are properly cleaned when switching uses; during passover, however, you would be limited to using burner 1 for non-dairy products and burner 2 for non-meat products. Since burners 3-4 would potentially have trace amounts of both meat and dairy products, even though those amounts would be irrelevant most of the year, those burners could not be used at all during passover.

I may be misunderstanding the rules, however; it's possible that they would merely require that those burners be restricted to items that are parve (not meat nor dairy, e.g. vegetables) or require that once a burner is used for meat or dairy during passover it cannot be used for the other at any time during the season.

All very tricky.

[supercat]

3. You shall not kindle fire in any of your dwelling places on the Sabbath day."

What exactly does the verb "kindle" mean in the original Hebrew? Does it refer to any act of adding fuel to a fire, or only to the act of lighting fire "from scratch", or what? Would it be acceptable to take out of a fire a stick whose end was in the fire, and then carry it as a torch? Unless the the addition of any fuel to a fire is a violation, I don't really see any clear line which would be violated by turning on the burner of an old-style (pilot-based) stove since that merely extends the fuel supply of an already-existing fire.

[FlJoePa]

"Not only is it a special day of reverance for the Lord, it's also Advice from The Manufacturer (Him):"

They should just buy GE appliances. Chances are they'll break down every 7 days anyway.

[Blood of Tyrants]

Since you appear to be Jewish, I will not argue the point with you. However, I will say this: No matter how hard you try, you WILL break some Jewish law. You cannot be justified through the law only convicted by it. Even today our laws exist only to notify of accepetable and unacceptable behavior and to punish.

[Dont_Tread_On_Me_888]

Frigidaire Ovens With the Sabbath Mode Feature

[SJackson]

What exactly does the verb "kindle" mean in the original Hebrew? Does it refer to any act of adding fuel to a fire, or only to the act of lighting fire "from scratch", or what? Would it be acceptable to take out of a fire a stick whose end was in the fire, and then carry it as a torch? Unless the the addition of any fuel to a fire is a violation, I don't really see any clear line which would be violated by turning on the burner of an old-style (pilot-based) stove since that merely extends the fuel supply of an already-existing fire.

I’m not qualified to answer that, but I’ll give you my impressions, very much subject to correction. Kindling is essentially starting a fire. Collecting the necessities for a fire or extinguishing a fire is also forbidden. I believe it’s ok to add fuel which is already collected, but I’m not sure. A torch, would depend on the reason. Remember all these “violations” would be permissible if there was a threat to life.