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Breakinh!-- McCain Admits He Does Not Have Votes for RINO Filibuster "Compromise"!
Reuters ^ | 05-17-05 | cww

Posted on 05/17/2005 7:11:09 AM PDT by CWW

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - On the eve of a high-stakes showdown, a key lawmaker said on Tuesday it was unclear if a group of bipartisan U.S. senators could strike a deal on President Bush's contested judicial nominees.

"It's hard to say. There's a lot of cross-pressures. There's a lot of activity on both extremes of the political spectrum," Sen. John McCain, an Arizona Republican, told CNN. "We'll know more today."

The Senate is to begin what's expected to be several days of debate on Wednesday on two of the seven appeals court candidates blocked by Democrats during the last Congress and then renominated by Bush after he won re-election in November.

Republicans have vowed that if Democrats again stop the nominees with procedural hurdles known as filibusters, they will move to ban such tactics on appeals court as well as U.S. Supreme Court nominees.

Republican leaders say they will have the 51 votes needed in the 100-member Senate to abolish such filibusters. But Democrats argue it is too close to call.

Efforts to find common ground persisted despite a breakdown in talks on Monday between Senate Majority Leader Bill Frist, a Tennessee Republican, and Senate Minority Leader Harry Reid, a Nevada Democrat.

McCain and Sen. Ben Nelson, a Nebraska Democrat, are leading an effort to attract a half dozen largely moderate senators from each party to a last ditch-compromise.

Their proposal would clear the way for votes on some of Bush's stalled judicial nominees while blocking others.

Under the proposal, Republicans would promise not to eliminate judicial filibusters through the end of next year, and Democrats would vow not to use such tactics against any circuit court or Supreme Court nominee except in "extreme circumstances."

Republicans hold 55 of 100 Senate seats. A simple majority is needed to confirm a nominee, but 60 votes are required to end a filibuster.

The aim of Nelson and McCain has been to provide six Democratic votes to clear the way for confirmation votes on some of the disputed nominees and six Republican votes to preserve the judicial filibuster. Nelson was confident he had enough Democrats on board, but was still working to attract a total of six Republicans, an aide said.

Talks between Frist and Reid ended following months of futile efforts to find common ground.

"The negotiations are over," Reid said. "I've tried to compromise (but) they want all or nothing, and I can't do that."

Frist said in a statement, "Republicans believe in the regular order of fair up and down votes and letting the Senate decide yes or no on judicial confirmations free from procedural gimmicks like the filibuster."


TOPICS: Government
KEYWORDS: filibuster; mccain; mccrook; reidsnuclearreaction; rino; scarmable; ussenate
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To: CWW

I want to b-slap that Harry Reid. He's got that big mouth punk look that just makes me want to go upside his head. He doesn't have black helicopters, does he?


101 posted on 05/17/2005 7:56:58 AM PDT by johnb838 (Liberalism = Leninism.... Liberalism = Bolshevism)
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To: Cboldt
I think the base closings and realignments will be decided more or less independently of how the nomination process goes down. If they can make a case for keeping the bases open, then they will be.

There is always and argument that a bases should be kept open. For example, a "consolidate operations" is more efficient. So - Snowe and Collins fall in line on Filibuster, they make a "consolidate" argument in favor of Kittery, which takes hold. Kittery will win out over Groton, just in time for reelections in 2006.

Just my SWAG.

102 posted on 05/17/2005 7:57:29 AM PDT by frithguild (Defining hypocrisy - Liberals fear liberty.)
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To: SolomoninSouthDakota

I thought I read an article that mentioned at least one Democrat by name, but I can't find it back. I may also be confusing it with an article on Bolton's confirmation which will also be close because of the same RINOs.

Or I could simply be losing my mind and imagining things.


103 posted on 05/17/2005 7:58:56 AM PDT by untrained skeptic
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To: onyx
"'Obsoive' -- OMG, tell me you don't really talk like that! :)

Why soitin-nee! I'm almost a New Yawkah, 'cept I'm from Joisey.

Ay-e-e -- Whatsamattahwityoo? Don't you watch da Sopranos??

104 posted on 05/17/2005 7:59:16 AM PDT by F16Fighter
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To: Mo1

thanks


105 posted on 05/17/2005 7:59:26 AM PDT by prairiebreeze (Hillary's Chappaquiddick. Check it out at: www.Hillcap.org)
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To: CWW
Under the proposal, Republicans would promise not to eliminate judicial filibusters through the end of next year, and Democrats would vow not to use such tactics against any circuit court or Supreme Court nominee except in "extreme circumstances."

Aye, there's the rub. Republicans can NOT promise to allow filibusters(especially for SC Nominees) for whoever the Rats declare as "extreme".

106 posted on 05/17/2005 7:59:47 AM PDT by DrewsDad
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To: prairiebreeze
I just read on another thread a poster said Lieberman is voting with us. Sorry, no source.
107 posted on 05/17/2005 8:00:32 AM PDT by SolomoninSouthDakota (Daschle is gone.)
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To: prairiebreeze

The senate floor is on C-span 2 now

But the title that c-span has on it's site reads "C-SPAN2
The Men Who Stare at Goats"


108 posted on 05/17/2005 8:01:50 AM PDT by Mo1 (Hey GOP ---- Not one Dime till Republicans grow a Spine !!)
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To: CWW
Senator McCainiac


109 posted on 05/17/2005 8:02:06 AM PDT by Travis McGee (----- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com -----)
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To: CWW

And who here trusts anything McRino says? Could be a trap.
DBC here addling another layer of tin foil.


110 posted on 05/17/2005 8:03:03 AM PDT by daybreakcoming
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To: prairiebreeze

Levin is up now


111 posted on 05/17/2005 8:04:26 AM PDT by Mo1 (Hey GOP ---- Not one Dime till Republicans grow a Spine !!)
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To: Mo1

oh heck .. I posted that on the wrong thread

Sorry :0(


112 posted on 05/17/2005 8:04:55 AM PDT by Mo1 (Hey GOP ---- Not one Dime till Republicans grow a Spine !!)
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To: Mo1

Bwahahahahahaaaaaaaa!!


113 posted on 05/17/2005 8:05:12 AM PDT by prairiebreeze (Hillary's Chappaquiddick. Check it out at: www.Hillcap.org)
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To: F16Fighter


Nooooooooooooo, don't tell me THAT! Please, let me preserve my mental image of you.


114 posted on 05/17/2005 8:05:21 AM PDT by onyx (Pope John Paul II - May 18, 1920 - April 2, 2005 = SANTO SUBITO!)
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To: frithguild

My (unsubstantiated) belief is that while partly political, decisions regarding bases are made more on practical grounds than on political spite.


115 posted on 05/17/2005 8:06:58 AM PDT by Cboldt
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To: Deo et Patria
"But, inevitably, we are going to hear some FReepers bash every Republican while giving the Democrats a pass."

Yep! When I hire someone to clean out my septic, I don't get mad at the maggots when he fails.
116 posted on 05/17/2005 8:13:06 AM PDT by Bar-Face
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To: Cboldt

That is true however the President has to sign off on the recommendations of the base closure committee and that could get a little political. I would say that some of the Dems in states that are going to be losing Military Installations might be willing to cut Dubya some slack on any number of things political.


117 posted on 05/17/2005 8:13:08 AM PDT by samantha (relax the grownups are in charge (I think).....)
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To: SolomoninSouthDakota
I just read on another thread a poster said Lieberman is voting with us. Sorry, no source.

By his news conference, I heard that Liebrman will vote with Reid on this, -if- it comes to a vote.

118 posted on 05/17/2005 8:13:41 AM PDT by Cboldt
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To: WideGlide

Now, THAT is a very scary image!! Crazy and Crazier!!
)))))SHIVER(((((


119 posted on 05/17/2005 8:37:38 AM PDT by Polyxene (For where God built a church, there the Devil would also build a chapel - Martin Luther)
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To: Polyxene

btt


120 posted on 05/17/2005 8:48:49 AM PDT by Sacajaweau (God Bless Our Troops!!)
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