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Buchanan sees 'war' within conservatism
THE WASHINGTON TIMES ^ | 5/17/05 | Ralph Z. Hallow

Posted on 05/16/2005 10:34:50 PM PDT by coffeebreak

Pat Buchanan speaks of American conservatism in the past tense. "The conservative movement has passed into history," says the one-time White House aide, three-time presidential candidate, commentator and magazine publisher. "It doesn't exist anymore as a unifying force," he says in an interview with The Washington Times. "There are still a lot of people who are conservative, but the movement is now broken up, crumbled, dismantled." He is seated in his living room on a sunny afternoon. His wife, Shelley — a member of the Nixon White House staff when he met and married her — is upstairs in their Virginia home.

Mr. Buchanan, a former adviser to Presidents Nixon, Ford and Reagan, says conservatism "is at war with itself over foreign policy, over deficit hawks versus supply-siders." Unnamed phonies, he suggests, have infiltrated the movement. There are "a lot of people who call themselves conservative but who, on many issues, I just don't consider as conservative. They are big-government people."

Culture under attack Conservatism, by most accounts, has dominated the Republican Party since 1964, when it nominated Barry Goldwater. Mr. Buchanan questions that view. For one thing, he says, Mr. Nixon, who imposed wage and price controls on the nation and outraged conservatives with his historic opening to communist China in 1972, was not a conservative. Nor in his view is President Bush or today's Republican Party. "I was a conservative in the Nixon White House, but there was no question that it was not a conservative White House," he says. "Nixon referred to conservatives as 'they.' He used to ask me, 'What do they want?' One time he said, 'Buchanan, you have to give the nuts 20 percent of what they want.'"

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: conservatism; conservative; culturewar; neocons; paleocons; patbuchanan; ralphzhallow
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Personally I think politicians will hear conservatives loud and clear during the 2006 elections. They don't seem to have gotten the message of 2004. Homosexuality and illegal immigration have most conservatives livid.
1 posted on 05/16/2005 10:34:50 PM PDT by coffeebreak
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To: coffeebreak

Pat Buchanan can see into the future but can't win an election?


2 posted on 05/16/2005 10:36:53 PM PDT by Darkwolf (aka Darkwolf377 (lurker since'01, member since 4/'04)--stop clogging me with pings!)
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To: coffeebreak

Buchanan sees war between anti-semites and normal human souls.


3 posted on 05/16/2005 10:38:03 PM PDT by Petronski (Pope Benedict XVI: A German Shepherd on the Throne of Peter)
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Unnamed phonies, he suggests, have infiltrated the movement.

True. And one of the premier phonies, in a master stroke of self projection, is the author of this article.

4 posted on 05/16/2005 10:39:04 PM PDT by Torie (Constrain rogue state courts; repeal your state constitution)
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What's up with this Ralph Zallow guy?


5 posted on 05/16/2005 10:44:25 PM PDT by NewRomeTacitus
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To: Torie

Er, Ralph Z. Hallow?


6 posted on 05/16/2005 10:45:32 PM PDT by NewRomeTacitus
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To: coffeebreak
It's all well and good to be an ideologue but if you can't win an election because you refuse to bend, what good are your ideas?

Domestically, I despise the President BUT I understand that we'be basically reached the point where we have to pay off the leaches of society to keep them from overrunning the rest of us.

7 posted on 05/16/2005 10:46:28 PM PDT by jess35
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To: Torie
Author? Or subject?
9 posted on 05/16/2005 10:49:42 PM PDT by okie01 (The Mainstream Media: IGNORANCE ON PARADE)
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To: coffeebreak
Mr. Buchanan, a former adviser to Presidents Nixon, Ford and Reagan, says conservatism "is at war with itself over foreign policy...

Once again Buchanan is wrong. Of all the things that divide conservatives, foreign policy isn't one of them.
10 posted on 05/16/2005 10:52:52 PM PDT by West Coast Conservative
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Old Pat is wrong.
As usual.
Things are exactly opposite of what he says.
The deliberate conspiracy to perpetuate illegal immigration and the failure to candidly name names of all participants in the worldwide war on terrorism has conservatives infuriated.
Gays are merely a subset of the failure of liberalism. It will also pass like all wretched excesses.


11 posted on 05/16/2005 10:53:31 PM PDT by CBart95
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I thought Pat B. wrote the article. I don't know the author from Adam. He's probably some starving blogger begging for attention.

Pat is the ersatz conservative. Pat has authoritarian tendencies. He can't stand folks living their lives in a post Vatican II world, particularly one that is not dominated by folks who tend to get sunburn. He wants to prop up buggy whip industries. He wants as his model the calcified Euoprean guild system of the middle ages, with jobs passed down in a closed system from father to son (women shouldn't work). He wants to bring back the auto de fe in his little bigoted black Irish heart. That is the essential Pat. JMO.

12 posted on 05/16/2005 10:53:43 PM PDT by Torie (Constrain rogue state courts; repeal your state constitution)
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To: coffeebreak

I think Pat has finally gone crazy like his brother did.


13 posted on 05/16/2005 10:59:14 PM PDT by Andy from Beaverton (I only vote Republican to stop the Democrats)
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"The conservative movement has passed into history," says the one-time White House aide, three-time presidential candidate, commentator and magazine publisher

I guess the conservative movement went in the dumpster when the nation rejected Pat 3 times. The 2000 election was an absolute conservative joy when Pat said that any hanging chad votes in the 3 contested Florida counties probably belonged to Gore. Sour grapes ain't the term for it....

14 posted on 05/16/2005 11:00:31 PM PDT by xJones
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To: Darkwolf

Lots of people can't win an election.


15 posted on 05/16/2005 11:05:51 PM PDT by mhx
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To: coffeebreak

Buchanan is the "thing" that is passe'.


16 posted on 05/16/2005 11:08:38 PM PDT by Oreo Kookey (How, indeed, do we click our tongues at beheadings and look the other way from abortion? I weep.)
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A number of you need a remedial reading course. Your reading comprehension is the s*!


17 posted on 05/16/2005 11:13:46 PM PDT by thegreatbeast (Quid lucrum istic mihi est?)
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Pat Buchanan is like a kidney stone. He's a pain in the back and you're oh so glad when he goes away.


18 posted on 05/16/2005 11:17:22 PM PDT by WestVirginiaRebel (Carnac: A siren, a baby and a liberal. Answer: Name three things that whine.)
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To: coffeebreak
Pat Buchanan passing gas on the topic of What Is and Isn't "True Conservatism" is a lot like listening to Dan Rather nattering on journalistic ethics, or Michael Moore dispensing diet and grooming tips.

The gut, instinctive reaction, on the part of any sober, rational human being over the intellectual age of two, is an immediate and emphatic: "Lick Me."

19 posted on 05/16/2005 11:18:07 PM PDT by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle ("As a conservative site, Free Republic is pro-G-d, PRO-LIFE..." -- FR founder Jim Robinson)
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movement is now broken up, crumbled, dismantled


20 posted on 05/16/2005 11:21:04 PM PDT by CyberAnt (President Bush: "America is the greatest nation on the face of the earth")
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