[ArGee]

The problem with the, poorly named, liberals is they believe that because socialism is a natural result of the egality, which is inherent in the very idea of democracy, it is thus good.

It is not only good, it is the correct state of Creation. However, Creation is fallen and this state can not be achieved until it is restored.

Shalom.

[Pelayo]

It is not only good, it is the correct state of Creation. However, Creation is fallen and this state can not be achieved until it is restored.

That I disagree with. It is true that Government is mostly a necessity because of The Fall, but it's clear to me God always intended hierarchies of authority. At the very least human biology argues for it in the form of the family. I would say rather that society's right to censure or punish defaulters through the auspices of government and its laws is the specific result and effect of The Fall on natural authority.