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To: Frank T

I would say that communism is a corporate police state. Except the Corporations are part of the goverment as opposed to independent of it. It eventually gets hard to distinguish.


161 posted on 05/16/2005 9:11:52 AM PDT by Borges
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To: Borges

"I would say that communism is a corporate police state. Except the Corporations are part of the goverment as opposed to independent of it. It eventually gets hard to distinguish."

If you look at corporatism as a couple of degrees separated from a welfare state, it brings up the question as to why some of the more strident members of our society are againt it?

If you believe in the welfare state, isn't increasing corporatisation a *good* thing? Because the economy is just "that" much closing to being centrally run?

If this anology is correct, the anti-capitalists have such venom towards corporations, in that these are competition to state run services. Yell and scream enough about them, and get voters to back legislation to bind the corps closer to the government with more regulations.

What the anticapitalists really hate though is the free market. If you believe that markets should be free, as the best possible way known to spread wealth through a society, you are an "extremist right winger." Maybe even stuck in the 18th century. Out of touch with the middle class, and so on.

What leftwing political parties across Western society obstruct most adamently are measures taken to free up the economy, things such as private savings accounts (these take money out of government treasuries, and are "uncollected" taxes) and school vouchers (takes kids out of indoctrination centers). In America, the Left were able to put up with racist members in their Party, as long as those people backed creating the welfare state.

Off on a tangent there, but yeah, I think anyone who wants to live in a free society shouldn't be totally enmored of increasing corporatism, anymore than we are of increasing state power. If steps *are* ever taken to roll back the welfare state in Western countries, expect some of the larger corporations toobject. Better we pay for everyone's medical care and pensions, and not them pay employees themselves? The multi-billion dollar bankruptcy bailouts point to their dependancy on the state.


169 posted on 05/16/2005 9:32:20 AM PDT by Frank T
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