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Lucas jabs at 'Bush's empire'
Japan today ^ | Monday, May 16, 2005 at 07:29 JST

Posted on 05/16/2005 2:07:19 AM PDT by Savage_Nation

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To: Jeff Chandler

"Does it count if one views a pirated copy?"

I guess it does...

Outside the US there is a large number of people who are making a point NOT TO pay for hollywood films but happy to see them...

Also in cases like these it spreads much faster, like in an underworld network...

The Star Wars lost its gloss in Europe in the past years, but if it can be interpreted as "anti-Bush" it may be a comeback...


241 posted on 05/16/2005 3:19:56 PM PDT by bozot
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To: Savage_Nation

This can't be true because many "FReepers" attacked Michael Medved over making just such a statement.

The signal to noise ratio has gotten very high at FR lately as new (one year or less) accounts attack conservatives.

As Sean Hannity has also noted, we are eating our own on this website now. I suspect that some of the "we" ain't like us.


242 posted on 05/16/2005 3:46:09 PM PDT by weegee (WE FOUGHT ZOGBYISM November 2, 2004 - 60 Million Voters versus 60 Minutes - BUSH WINS!!!)
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To: martin_fierro

Yet, it is interesting that Mr. Liberal Lucas only had one or two black characters of any importance, and hardly any Asian/Hispanic characters of any importance.


243 posted on 05/16/2005 3:57:37 PM PDT by Paul Atreides (FACT: More atrocities have been perpetrated with a hot glue gun, than with a hand gun)
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To: Savage_Nation

I'm patting myself on the back for never falling for that Star Wars crapola. I saw the first one and thought it moderately entertaining. I tried to sit through the second, but my eyelids became too heavy. Lucas has proven to be just another marginally talented Hollyweird leftist nitwit who can't get over himself.


244 posted on 05/16/2005 4:28:25 PM PDT by driftless ( For life-long happiness, learn how to play the accordion.qi)
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To: MJM59

Iraq has used Russia for the overwhelming majority of its arms. We come in a pitiful third after France. We also helped the Soviet Union during WWII without any illusions as to the horribleness of Stalin. We had to defeat Hitler first. What is the point of of your comments?


245 posted on 05/16/2005 4:35:16 PM PDT by driftless ( For life-long happiness, learn how to play the accordion.qi)
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To: Darkwolf

I just think it was a blanket statement. I find it difficult to think that someone knows whether or not "most" fans were disappointed with the last two. Near as I remember, they did fine at the box office. It has just been my experience that film critics are generally the least qualified people on Earth to criticize films.


246 posted on 05/16/2005 5:36:33 PM PDT by SALChamps03
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To: SALChamps03

Sure, it's a blanket statement, but so is "Most people didn't like Battlefield Earth." It's pretty common knowledge that MOST fans think the two best SW movies are SW and Empire, and then Jedi, and then the other two. Box office is tricky--people pay to see movies based on hype, but that doesn't mean they liked them. The first two prequels are basically kids movies--Clones is the first SW movie to not be #1 at the box office for its year. That's a striking fact, and it sure says something about what people thought about Phantom Menace.


247 posted on 05/16/2005 5:39:45 PM PDT by Darkwolf (aka Darkwolf377 (lurker since'01, member since 4/'04)--stop clogging me with pings!)
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To: Savage_Nation; Bombardier

It should be pointed out that the story was written in the late 60's early 70's . It aint about Bush no matter how much the leftist trash would want it to be.


248 posted on 05/16/2005 6:07:10 PM PDT by Nebr FAL owner (.308 reach out & thump someone .50 cal.Browning Machine gun reach out & crush someone)
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To: hail to the chief

"Do you really think that the movie promotes atheism, liberalism, socialism, or communism?"

I think it mostly promotes capitalism.


249 posted on 05/16/2005 6:27:47 PM PDT by Sara Dorian
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To: MJM59
I tend to agree with Lucas that this country is losing it's democratic ideals. This whole black and white "with us or against us" mentality is unrealistically simplistic in the modern world. Churches are wanting to excommunicate democrats, Republicans want to do away with the filibuster since it is getting in their way of having things the way that they want it. If you speak against the current administration, you are some sort of Anti American scum that should be branded and sent off to some camp somewhere. The extremism in this country is pretty frightening.

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250 posted on 05/16/2005 6:35:44 PM PDT by Nat Turner
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To: Savage_Nation

For someone who reportedly reads history, he seems like a boob. Has the rarified weedy air of N. Calif. zombified him?


251 posted on 05/16/2005 7:25:06 PM PDT by eleni121 ('Thou hast conquered, O Galilean!' (Julian the Apostate))
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To: martin_fierro

Yeah, and my Irish wolfhound told me that the Wookie character was just a wolfhound knockoff.

It's just a movie, people!


252 posted on 05/16/2005 8:14:55 PM PDT by GladesGuru
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To: Savage_Nation

I enjoyed the first Star Wars movie, but I thought it went downhill from there. Samuel Delaney once told me that he talked to Lucas after the first movie came out and asked him why the good guys were all human and the bad guys were all aliens. That's when Lucas started down the road to political correctness.

The first time I heard the phrase "the dark side of the force" I said to myself, oh oh, sounds like a cross between Gnosticism and Manicheanism. It's not a promising theological concept. Yes, it's only a movie, but when the underlying principles are skewed, then the movie is skewed.


253 posted on 05/16/2005 8:27:46 PM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: Savage_Nation

What I find hipocritical is that this same dude (Lucas) totally sterotyped the Trade Federation (Asians), Gungans (Jamaicans), and Watto (Jewish). Yet, the left uttered not a single peep!


254 posted on 05/16/2005 8:38:06 PM PDT by hispanichoosier
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To: Savage_Nation
"Most bad people think they're good people,"

Lucas has this right. The democrats are the bad people who think they are good.

255 posted on 05/16/2005 9:40:43 PM PDT by staytrue
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To: Savage_Nation
"The issue was, how does a democracy turn itself into a dictatorship?"

No Clueless George, the issue is how does a federal republic turn itself into a democracy as the US has and how many more years will that democracy last?

Those that know nothing of history are doomed to repeat it. Stick to fantasy, George! You've demonstrated yet again how well you excel at it.

256 posted on 05/16/2005 10:04:09 PM PDT by Rockitz (After all these years, it's still rocket science.)
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To: Savage_Nation
George Lucas can go SCREW HIMSELF. Before you PAY George Lucas at the box office, ask yourself; Do I love the UNITED STATES OF AMERICA or the liberal/socialist/atheist/communist Hollywood movies??

Man, Lucas is no doubt a lefty but I think your vitriol is a bit over the top. This storyline has been in place since 1976.

In the Journal of the Whills prologue from the original 1976 novelization of Star Wars, (then titled "Star Wars: From the Adventures of Luke Skywalker") the following was written:

So it was with the Republic at its height. Like the greatest of trees, able to withstand any external attack, the Republic rotted from within though the danger was not visible from outside.

Aided and abetted by restless, power-hungry individuals within the government, and the massive organs of commerce, the ambitious Senator Palpatine caused himself to be elected President of the Republic. He promised to reunite the disaffected among the people and to restore the remembered glory of the Republic.

Once secure in office he declared himself Emperor, shutting himself away from the populace. Soon he was controlled by the very assistants and boot-lickers he had appointed to high office, and the cries of the people for justice did not reach his ears.

According to my sources Bush hadn't even decided to run for pres at this time, though I may be mistaken.

Lucas based the Emperor and fall of the Republic more on Nazi Germany and Hitler's rise to power than anything else. Leftists (MSM) never fail to pounce on an opportunity to connect Bush to Hitler and this is what is happening here.

257 posted on 05/16/2005 10:40:18 PM PDT by Ktulu
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To: Savage_Nation
"When I wrote it, Iraq (the U.S.-led war) didn't exist... but the parallels of what we did in Vietnam and Iraq are unbelievable."

He's right, the parallels can't be believed.

The war in Iraq could only have significant parallels to Vietnam if the war was started by Democrat presidents who didn't really want to win the thing, defunded halfway through by a Democrat Congress, and ended by a "moderate" Republican president who only got elected on the promise of caving to said Democrats.

Some white trash slut pointing at naked captives doesn't mean there are parallels between the two wars.

258 posted on 05/16/2005 11:16:27 PM PDT by MitchellC
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To: Ktulu

I agree with Savage_Nation, we need to boycott all "celebrity activists" of leftist-atheistic-communist sympathies. Now, of course that is hard to do since many, many actors and the like are leftist ninnies, but we can at least boycott the outspoken ones. I am upset with all who post here that put their interests in this movie ahead of their political and moral convictions.


259 posted on 05/16/2005 11:59:39 PM PDT by arizonaconservative (I am new.)
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To: Savage_Nation
"The issue was, how does a democracy turn itself into a dictatorship?" he said.
The issue should be...how does a republic turn itself into a dictatorship?
The answer...It has to be changed to a democracy first then a dictatorship naturally follows.

And in this "series" can anyone find that defining moment when "the majority ruled", instead of the rule of law, and the old republic became a true democracy to eventually be taken over by the evil Emperor Palpatine?

260 posted on 05/17/2005 12:50:59 AM PDT by philman_36 ("It’s a legal document, and legal documents do not change." Scalia)
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