Posted on 05/15/2005 9:37:28 AM PDT by Nasty McPhilthy
Actually, I think there is a tax of 0.1 cents per kwh on nuclear power, and that tax is used to pay for waste disposal. On the other hand, the waste from burning coal is just released into the air where it kills 24,000 U.S. citizens each year.
The liberal media will grant the title of "environmentalist" to anyone without them having to produce credentials or facts of any kind as long as they are attacking the right.
Are you certain you can brain wash a liberal? First they must have a brain and remembering the great unwashed of the 60's, I still have my doubts about the washing requirement.
It's (EGAD!!) the French who have it right and the Germans who have it hopelessly wrong.
Environmentalists, I've seen them called here in the past by a very appropriate name, are Watermelons, green on the outside and red on the inside.
BTW be sure to thank Jane Fondue for helping the Watermelon Anti-Nuke cause with her trash film China-Syndrome.
Excellent point, cripplecreek. Shows their hypocrisy.
Char :)
>>The "last resort" would be the energy sources proposed by the leftists I conversed with last night -- wind and solar. They actually believe that these sources can meet a modern society's energy needs.
It never ceases to amaze me, how many attempt to expound on energy policy, who do not have the vaguest hazy hint of clue on basic Thermodynamics nor Economics.
From Fact Sheet on the Accident at Three Mile Island
http://www.nrc.gov/reading-rm/doc-collections/fact-sheets/3mile-isle.html
The average exposure to everyone in the area was equal to 1/6th of a routine chest x-ray. The Maximum dose someone would have gotten staying NEXT TO the site for the entire time was equal to the natural background radiation for 1 year.
"Health Effects"
"Detailed studies of the radiological consequences of the accident have been conducted by the NRC, the Environmental Protection Agency, the Department of Health, Education and Welfare (now Health and Human Services), the Department of Energy, and the State of Pennsylvania. Several independent studies have also been conducted. Estimates are that the average dose to about 2 million people in the area was only about 1 millirem. To put this into context, exposure from a full set of chest x-rays is about 6 millirem. Compared to the natural radioactive background dose of about 100-125 millirem per year for the area, the collective dose to the community from the accident was very small. The maximum dose to a person at the site boundary would have been less than 100 millirem."
"In the months following the accident, although questions were raised about possible adverse effects from radiation on human, animal, and plant life in the TMI area, none could be directly correlated to the accident. Thousands of environmental samples of air, water, milk, vegetation, soil, and foodstuffs were collected by various groups monitoring the area. Very low levels of radionuclides could be attributed to releases from the accident. However, comprehensive investigations and assessments by several well-respected organizations have concluded that in spite of serious damage to the reactor, most of the radiation was contained and that the actual release had negligible effects on the physical health of individuals or the environment."
Never let the facts get in the way of a good environmental jihad...
"I was in a drinking establishment near Berkeley last night and..."
Nice. I wish I could have seen their faces.
As the "conversation" continued, they were looking at eachother for group reinforcement of their common bias far more than they were looking at me. Most of them were avoiding eye contact with me, except of course when shouting and attacking -- after which, the screamer would immediately look at the other members of his hive for mutually self-congratulatory smiles of approval. Any one of them would have been to destroy in a formal public debate. One guy's eyes were simply popping out of his head. He looked maniacal, like he needed a valium IV started right freaking now.
"would have been to destroy" should read "would have been easy to destroy"
Hey, Bonaparte - its been a while!
Link to a report from Oak Ridge Natl Labs on radioactivity relative to coal power plants.
An interesting note - the radioactive elements released and captured in the ash from coal burning powerplants (three fractions, processed) has 1.5X MORE energy potential than the coal burned!
http://www.ornl.gov/info/ornlreview/rev26-34/text/colmain.html
Despite that, it barely adds to the background level, but over a long period of time - decades to centuries of coal burning - it could become a factor...
Good to hear from you, m! And thanks for the link. It's pathetic how little factual evidence is brought to the energy table by the left. They're very lucky that there is so much resistance to their pet initiatives like Kyoto. If all that were implemented, they would be sooooo unhappy with the impoverishment they would have to endure -- no more sipping of lattes, shopping sprees at their gourmet ghettos or regular pick-ups of their carefully sorted recyclable refuse -- the trucks would be unable to bring anything to them or take anything away. They would get an unexpected crash course in 18th century living -- especially when they required the benefit of modern hospital care.
Coal and Nuclear go hand in hand.
Coal ash has a high level of radioactive isotopes. This is due to the removal of the hydrocarbons (by burning) and the resultant high concentration of metals.
There has been talk, that if Coal use increased, it could then be cost effective to process the ash for the radioactive isotopes that could then be used to fuel the reactors.
And, may I add, very effectively reduce our dependency on oil-hydrocarbons.
That's a pretty specific number, where did you find it? EPA?
thx
heh?
I'll have to look into that- if so, Yucca Mt is just about paid for...
Thanks for the info.
I don't remember where I read it. That's why I said "I think."
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