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McCain immigration bill to be challenged
KVOA Tucson TV ^ | 15 May 2005 0632AM AZ Local Time | Peter Busch

Posted on 05/15/2005 7:30:54 AM PDT by axes_of_weezles

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To: ThreePuttinDude

"After the CFR bullcrap...McLame should just STFU"

Bump.


21 posted on 05/15/2005 8:12:29 AM PDT by TheLawyerFormerlyKnownAsAl
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To: DumpsterDiver

I was wondering when someone was going to compare Mccain with Fox. I was thinking how these Open Borders Loons all speak the same language.

I want to know how much money Mccain gets from Soros and Rockefeller.

You only need so many folks to drive Budweiser trucks.

I wonder what Mccain's stance on Illegal Chinese immigrants is, since they dont really fit in Arizona, but will flood from the Canuckistan border.


22 posted on 05/15/2005 8:17:04 AM PDT by axes_of_weezles (Ha!)
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To: ThreePuttinDude

Remember the corruption and conspiracy of the Keating 7?
McCain was right in the middle of that. But a smart politician can almost always cover his tracks, even with grand jurys and special prosecuters.


23 posted on 05/15/2005 8:17:18 AM PDT by o_zarkman44
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To: AZHua87

At least the local TV stations are giving him some airtime to put it to Mccain and Kolbe. Last go around all they did was slam him with ad-hominem attacks. Thank goodness for the Minutemen.


24 posted on 05/15/2005 8:19:31 AM PDT by axes_of_weezles (Ha!)
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To: riri

I think this is the same Mccain-Kennedy bill he is discussing, that is being debated in congress as we speak.


25 posted on 05/15/2005 8:20:34 AM PDT by axes_of_weezles (Ha!)
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To: axes_of_weezles

This amnesty effort of McCain is with Ted Kennedy. NEVER forget who the rino's are. They deceive us and sell us out.


26 posted on 05/15/2005 8:24:43 AM PDT by television is just wrong
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To: o_zarkman44

"...because they are accustomed to a lower standard of living."

Not to mention that they live three families in one house!


27 posted on 05/15/2005 8:26:25 AM PDT by scars
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To: television is just wrong

It's not just Mccain/Kennedy it's Soros too.

http://www.sorosmonitor.com/absolutenm/templates/news.aspx?articleid=12&zoneid=1


28 posted on 05/15/2005 8:29:17 AM PDT by axes_of_weezles (Ha!)
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To: AZHua87
You forgot Cong. Ed Pastor

It's a sanity mechanism in my brain. It blocks me from thinking about him, or I'll go mad.

Anyway, you're right of course. I guess having Slimy Eddie around in the past didn't bug me so much since he was outnumbered so badly. With Grijalva there...it's different.

29 posted on 05/15/2005 8:30:03 AM PDT by Regulator
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To: AZHua87
Kolbe got his clock cleaned in his oun home county it took the WHINORINOS of Tucson to reelect him

A lot of my family falls into that category. Which stuns me. For the life of me, I can't figure out why they vote for the SOB. They say, well, he's been there a long time, he must be doing something right. Huh?!

That's the "logic" of it from otherwise right wing people. The guy is there on inertia alone.

I gave Randy about $500 last time around. Guess I'll just have to double it, make sure he dumps the queer this time.

30 posted on 05/15/2005 8:33:29 AM PDT by Regulator
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To: axes_of_weezles

It's called following the money. Commoners (citizens) have little influence on legislation unless they can band together and.....gasp...raise money. Politicians always have their hands out when money is available for political favor. But it is who has the most money that wins every time.


31 posted on 05/15/2005 8:33:32 AM PDT by o_zarkman44
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To: axes_of_weezles
McCain's new immigration reform bill would allow qualifying illegal immigrants to receive worker-visas after they pay a 2,000 fine.

How is a poor illegal alien going to come up with $2,000 to pay the fine? This sounds ridiculous, most illegal aliens who sneak into this country seem to have just the clothes they are wearing. What can McCain be thinking, that every illegal alien/guestworker has an extra $2,000. Or is the plan that the taxpayers subsidize the $2,000 per illegal?

I used to think McCain was remarkable to have survived POW in Vietnam, but lately he seems to have deviated from my prior conception of him.

32 posted on 05/15/2005 8:36:46 AM PDT by shebacal (Go, Minutemen, Go)
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To: shebacal
McCain cozying up to the LSM and Kennedy has taken him from ExPOW - Hero to RINO - ZERO.


33 posted on 05/15/2005 8:44:11 AM PDT by AZHua87 (Insurgent BloggerVet!)
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To: shebacal

If they are allowing people to buy off citizenship; $2,000 is not enough. For Legal immigrants the fees the INS charge is close to $1,500 over 5 years.
I would say $5-15k is more appropriate. How do they pay back the public debt they have rung up?

Report: Illegal entrants cost state $1.3 billion a year
http://www.dailystar.com/dailystar/relatedarticles/24834.php

$1.3 Billion/425K = $5000. That's for one year in Arizona.


34 posted on 05/15/2005 8:44:46 AM PDT by axes_of_weezles (Ha!)
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To: axes_of_weezles

McCain is an IDIOT, but we all know that already.


35 posted on 05/15/2005 8:45:21 AM PDT by Marine Inspector (Customs & Border Protection Officer)
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To: shebacal

Also the Mexican illegals are paying smugglers/traffickers between $1500-$3000 just to cross the border. If Mccain can allow them to come, they need to pay their way.

We do not need more indentured servants and low wage slaves; even if Soros and crew want them.


36 posted on 05/15/2005 8:48:45 AM PDT by axes_of_weezles (Ha!)
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To: axes_of_weezles
This man is not right in the head.
37 posted on 05/15/2005 8:51:17 AM PDT by Travis McGee (----- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com -----)
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To: Travis McGee

They seem to have dropped the idea that workers could return to their home country and still collect earned social security. I like the idea of people going home, though I think the idea of deporting 10 million people is ludicrous. Any tightening of the rules and enforcement will encourage some to leave voluntarily. Can we presume that applicants with criminal records will be deported? And how do we insure that deportation orders are not ignored? Still lots of quetions.


38 posted on 05/15/2005 9:11:04 AM PDT by ClaireSolt (.)
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To: axes_of_weezles
"Our proposal is earmarked for jobs that Americans won't do, and there are clearly jobs that Americans will not do," says McCain.

For example, RINO senators.

Petition to secure our borders

39 posted on 05/15/2005 9:24:19 AM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Deport them all; let Fox sort them out.)
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To: axes_of_weezles
The Laws that are NOT being enforced

8 USC Sec. 1325

Any alien who -

1. enters or attempts to enter the United States at any time or place other than as designated by immigration officers, or

2. eludes examination or inspection by immigration officers, or

3. attempts to enter or obtains entry to the United States by a willfully false or misleading representation or the willful concealment of a material fact,

shall, for the first commission of any such offense, be fined under Title 18 or imprisoned not more than six months, or both, and, for a subsequent commission of any such offense, be fined under Title 18, or imprisoned not more than two years or both.

(b) Improper time or place, civil penalties - Any alien who is apprehended while entering (or attempting to enter) the United States at a time or place other than as designated by immigration officers

shall be subject to a civil penalty of -
(1) at least $50 and not more than $250 for each such entry (or attempted entry); or

(2) twice the amount specified in paragraph (1) in the case of an alien who has been previously subject to a civil penalty under this subsection. Civil penalties under this subsection are in addition to, and not in lieu of, any criminal or other civil penalties that may be imposed. (d) Immigration-related entrepreneurship fraud - Any individual who knowingly establishes a commercial enterprise for the purpose of evading any provision of the immigration laws shall be imprisoned for not more than 5 years, fined in accordance with title 18, or both.

Section 1324a states: "Any person who knowingly hires/harbors/transports any illegal alien is guilty of a felony punishable by 10 years jail + $2000 fine per illegal alien + forfeiture of the vehicle or property used to commit the crime".

Section 1324c states, "All officers whose duty it is to enforce criminal laws shall have authority to make arrests for a violation of any provision of this section" (affirmed US v Perez-Gonzalez 2002 Fed App 0360, 6th Circ.).

Section 1644, same title states, "No local ordinance, rule, or measure shall stop law enforcement officers from enforcement of this section" (affirmed Southern District Court of NY, US v Rudy Guiliani,1996).

40 posted on 05/15/2005 10:24:10 AM PDT by yoe
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