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To: SheLion; All
IMHO this is a two-card Monte game. The anti smokers get us "conservatives" arguing about the right of a company to do what it wants vs. the right of an individual to have privacy in his private life away from the company.

The real issue is companies are paying more for health insurance because our government insists on paying for illegal aliens as well as care-by-demand by any person not able to pay at hospital emergency rooms. States add to the increased cost by insisting that all medical insurance policies be gold-plated - you know, with "massage therapy" and hypnosis. No basic care policies are allowed. (As in WA state for example.)

This raises costs on insurance companies which they pass on to consumer companies - who now seem to be responsible for ALL our health care. In response, private companies are trying to lower some of the expense by picking on the latest fad Bad Guys... smoking, obesity, fast food.

Don't get caught up in this. Companies have no right to dictate our personal lives. Next would be genetic testing to see who "will" get "sick." It is a dangerous precendent. But most of all, we need to stop our "helpful" governent from actively pushing up health care costs by funding illegal aliens, setting mandatory insurance benefits, and insisting hospitals treat patients for free. We don't want to get side-traked, then divided on this one folks...

31 posted on 05/14/2005 9:13:19 AM PDT by Libertina (If illegals don't have to obey US laws, NEITHER DO WE!)
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To: Libertina
Don't get caught up in this. Companies have no right to dictate our personal lives. Next would be genetic testing to see who "will" get "sick." It is a dangerous precendent. But most of all, we need to stop our "helpful" governent from actively pushing up health care costs by funding illegal aliens, setting mandatory insurance benefits, and insisting hospitals treat patients for free. We don't want to get side-traked, then divided on this one folks...

I agree.  There is a hidden agenda in this if you ask me!

43 posted on 05/14/2005 9:20:11 AM PDT by SheLion (Trying to make a life in the BLUE state of Maine!)
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To: Libertina

You hit the nail on the head. If health care costs were not so out of whack, this would not be an issue.

I too suspect that illegal aliens getting free health care has a whole lot to do with the ever increasing cost of health care. The higher it gets, the more companies will try to place lifestyle restrictions on their employees.

Its funny, I smoke, and have had many jobs where I had insurance. I never ended up using it much if at all, while I watched other non smoking employees run to the Dr every other day cus they had a cough or cold.


57 posted on 05/14/2005 9:31:58 AM PDT by eXe (Si vis pacem, para bellum)
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To: Libertina

I agree totally. People are not free if they can't do a legal act withing their own time. Companies have no right to dictate to employees what they do in their own time. If the company pays for 24 hrs work, then they may have that right.


84 posted on 05/14/2005 10:19:12 AM PDT by Rhiannon
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To: Libertina

I shudder to think of a possible future fascist police state who could declare that "only healthy people will be allowed to live" and by using genetic testing, anybody who is genetically susceptible of getting sick will be arrested, transported to a concentration camp, and executed.


220 posted on 05/14/2005 5:01:12 PM PDT by bigdcaldavis ("HYAHHHHHHH!!!!!!!" - Howard Dean)
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To: Libertina
Next would be genetic testing to see who "will" get "sick."

GATICA! GATICA! GATICA!

No justice, no peace!

GATICA! GATICA...

261 posted on 05/15/2005 6:50:37 AM PDT by Thommas (The snout of the camel is in the tent...)
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