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1 posted on 05/13/2005 5:34:35 PM PDT by Boston Blackie
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To: Boston Blackie
Because to "refuse to allow recovery against a person responsible for an illegal alien's employment who knew or should have known of the illegal alien's status would provide an incentive for such persons to target illegal aliens for employment in the most dangerous jobs or to provide illegal aliens with substandard working conditions. It would allow such persons to treat illegal aliens as disposable commodities who may be replaced the moment they are damaged." Translation: Illegal aliens shouldn't be viewed as lawbreakers but as the innocent victims of a cruel, capitalist society.

Logic lost.

2 posted on 05/13/2005 5:40:46 PM PDT by afnamvet (31st Fighter Wing Tuy Hoa AB RVN 68-69 "Return with Honor")
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"a person responsible for an illegal alien's employment may avoid this situation by refusing to employ the illegal alien in the first place."

This decision might be not so bad if it deters companies from employing illegals who can now take advanatge of the "law" to sue employers based on real or imagined injury. The difficulty is that this might also be interpreted as a good reason for a mass amnesty......

3 posted on 05/13/2005 5:46:55 PM PDT by 45Auto (Big holes are (almost) always better.)
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To: Boston Blackie

Why isn't the act of forging identity papers a felony?...

Homeland Security aka border patrol should push to make
the illegal invasion of the United States of America
whose borders they are sworn to protect...A felony

As should refusal to protect our borders by the agents
who have sworn to protect them...also..be a felony level crime.

imo


4 posted on 05/13/2005 5:48:59 PM PDT by joesnuffy (The generation that survived the depression and won WW2 proved poverty does not cause crime)
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To: Boston Blackie

Why isn't the act of forging identity papers a felony?...

Homeland Security aka border patrol should push to make
the illegal invasion of the United States of America
whose borders they are sworn to protect...A felony

As should refusal to protect our borders by the agents
who have sworn to protect them...also..be a felony level crime.

imo


5 posted on 05/13/2005 5:49:18 PM PDT by joesnuffy (The generation that survived the depression and won WW2 proved poverty does not cause crime)
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To: Boston Blackie

Fine. Maybe it will finally dawn on the employer community, who are enabling this whole mess by hiring illegals, that illegals ARE a real cost on their insurance and taxes and payroll, not imported slaves.

Sorry, but it is the employers who create the strongest incentive to come here, NOT government services (although, those help).

Non-fakeable ID and Picture/thumbprint Social Security cards are inexpensive first step.


7 posted on 05/13/2005 5:54:24 PM PDT by Wiseghy ("Sometimes you're windshield, sometimes you' re the bug")
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To: Boston Blackie; Travis McGee

He charged an illegal alien from Mexico with criminal trespass after police found the man with false identification papers and the federal authorities declined to act.



why should WE obey the laws, if the government won't obey them.

The FEDERAL government in rebellion against us.
And not a thing we can really do about it either.

'rule of law?" my ass.
Perhaps if Americans REFUSED to pay any taxes whatsoever and flood the jails with teaparty patriots, until the government actually went to WAR against our invaders from the south as the LAW requires them...

perhaps that would be better than parking the vast majority of our warriors/defenders of liberty, on the opposite side of the globe... while this planet's communists, arabs and south american socialists conspire against us, in the comfort of Brazil.

talk about classical military misdirection techiniques of sun tzu taught in war college... the chinese are laughing their asses off at us.

pass me a copy of mao's gospel... comrade.



8 posted on 05/13/2005 5:56:43 PM PDT by Robert_Paulson2 (The minutemen are 'vigilantes' doncha know?)
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To: Boston Blackie

I don't have any problem with this decision. I don't think that employers should be permitted to use their own wrongdoing (i.e., the hiring of an illegal immigrant) as a defense to a demand that they accept the responsibilities that flow from their voluntary status as an employer.



11 posted on 05/13/2005 6:08:48 PM PDT by Scenic Sounds (Sí, estamos libres sonreír otra vez - ahora y siempre.)
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To: Mears

bfl


19 posted on 05/13/2005 6:30:05 PM PDT by Mears (Keep the government out of my face!)
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To: Boston Blackie

I think this is ok.... If an employer hires an illegal, then he has the same responsibilities to that employee. This is good, it is one more reason for employers not to break the law and hire illegals.


20 posted on 05/13/2005 7:17:49 PM PDT by Rodney King (No, we can't all just get along.)
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To: Boston Blackie

Well good news! If THEY don't have to follow our laws, WE don't either...right? /s


34 posted on 05/13/2005 10:09:35 PM PDT by Libertina (Washington State... Western branch office of FloriDUH elections.)
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