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Should America Build A Holocaust Memorial for the 100 Million Victims of Communism?
May 13, 2005 | ComtedeMaistre

Posted on 05/13/2005 9:03:57 AM PDT by ComtedeMaistre

Some conservatives were angered by President Bush's decision to attend the military parade in Russia, where the Red Army was honored for its role in World War Two sixty years ago. The Red Army has a record of bloodshed that exceeds even that of the Nazi SS units.

The leaders of Lithuania and Estonia acted on principle, and decided to boycott the military parade in Russia honoring the Red Army, with communist hammer and sickle flags in full display. While we remember the victims of Nazism, we should not forget the tyranny that the Baltics and the rest of Eastern Europe was subjected to for over 40 years.

Communism killed 100 million people in the 20th Century, double the number who died in World War Two. America should build a memorial to victims of the Communist genocides in Ukraine, China, Cambodia, Russia, Vietnam,etc.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Foreign Affairs; Government; Russia; Your Opinion/Questions
KEYWORDS: bush; cambodia; communism; mao; russia; stalin
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To: GOPJ
Really, brilliant.

Thank you.

81 posted on 05/13/2005 11:21:24 AM PDT by Paul C. Jesup
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To: Fudd

I fail to see how being sent to Siberia makes one a noble, democracy loving freedom fighter! One commie getting rid of another is more like it.


82 posted on 05/13/2005 11:22:49 AM PDT by Xiaoding
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To: ladyjane

What does that mean, missy? You some kind of authority on Christianity, you got a main line to God?


83 posted on 05/13/2005 11:23:56 AM PDT by Xiaoding
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To: gate2wire

What has that got to do with the subject at hand? the weak perish, and the Ukranians were weak indeed.


84 posted on 05/13/2005 11:24:51 AM PDT by Xiaoding
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To: Blurblogger

Yeah, they were all saints, not a sinner amongst them! Sure, right.


85 posted on 05/13/2005 11:25:41 AM PDT by Xiaoding
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To: dennisw; Cachelot; Yehuda; Nix 2; veronica; Catspaw; knighthawk; Alouette; Optimist; weikel; ...
If you'd like to be on this middle east/political ping list, please FR mail me.

Don't see why not, we could build it next door.

87 posted on 05/13/2005 11:42:35 AM PDT by SJackson (The first duty of a leader is to make himself be loved without courting love, Andre Malraux)
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To: ComtedeMaistre
Well, we do have a memorial to the many victims of the famine forced upon the people of Ireland by the people of Britain.

Boston Famine Memorial

I find it odd that the memorial web site states that the memorial, "feature(s) two life-size sculptures, one depicting a family leaving Ireland's shores, impoverished and desperate, and another depicting a family arriving in Boston, filled with hope and determination."

I've viewed this memorial. To me, it obviously portrays one family impoverished, desperate starving and without food. The other family is healthy, carrying a basket filled with food, and shown walking past the destitute family as the mother glances back with a stern disapproving look on her face.

To me, the sculpture represented plentiful England ignoring the starving Irish.

Am I remembering this wrong? Or is the web site being PC?

88 posted on 05/13/2005 11:44:26 AM PDT by Dr._Joseph_Warren
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To: Xiaoding

You are right, Chicom, I should have used peristalsis to describe your comments.


89 posted on 05/13/2005 11:51:09 AM PDT by Treader (Hillary's dark smile is reminiscent of Stalin's inhuman grin...)
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To: YOUGOTIT
The democrat party is Communist so we did not win.

That's no joke. I'd say something about all of the ways the Soviets influenced the left, but it's so unthinkable that just talking about it makes one sound like a lunatic.
90 posted on 05/13/2005 12:06:36 PM PDT by Jaysun (No matter how hot she is, some man, somewhere, is tired of her sh*t)
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To: Echo Talon

Russia was Hitlers ally. They turned against Hitler only after he attacked Russia. Hardly honorable.


91 posted on 05/13/2005 12:08:32 PM PDT by Xiaoding
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To: gate2wire

Hey gate2wire, I'm a newbie also. Regardless, welcome aboard! Ain't a sapper are ya? Dang, just askin' a BP approved query...


92 posted on 05/13/2005 12:19:05 PM PDT by Treader (Hillary's dark smile is reminiscent of Stalin's inhuman grin...)
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To: ComtedeMaistre
>>>>>Should America Build A Holocaust Memorial for the 100 Million Victims of Communism?<<<<<<

Yes, and the monument should mention American bankers who bankrolled Soviet revolution.

Without their help, Soviet revolution would not succeed.

93 posted on 05/13/2005 12:32:55 PM PDT by DTA
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To: ComtedeMaistre
Currently, the exclusion of victims of Stalinism and Maoism from the DC Museum, reduces the Museum to a monument to political correctness.

I don't think it's political correctness at all, rather the fact that while American's recognize the evil of Hitler and take pride in his defeat, the view of many toward communism, here and even in Eastern Europe, is mixed. Communism certainly isn't universally reviled as an evil. IMO that would make construction of a museum both more difficult, and potentially more productive.

94 posted on 05/13/2005 12:39:51 PM PDT by SJackson (The first duty of a leader is to make himself be loved without courting love, Andre Malraux)
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To: ComtedeMaistre
Absolutely. No question.
96 posted on 05/13/2005 12:52:08 PM PDT by SQUID
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To: Xiaoding

"Yeah, they were all saints, not a sinner amongst them! Sure, right."

We're all sinners.

Regarding Stalin's purge, sure, some Party elites were killed. Tyrants are notoriously and justifiably paranoid. Still, the vast majority of those whom Stalin slaughtered were peasants, farmers, serfs--not the ruling class Communist Party members.


97 posted on 05/13/2005 1:22:23 PM PDT by The Spirit Of Allegiance (SAVE THE BRAINFOREST! Boycott the RED Dead Tree Media & NUKE the DNC Class Action Temper Tantrum!)
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To: Xiaoding
Russia was Hitlers ally. They turned against Hitler only after he attacked Russia. Hardly honorable.

Yea it wasn't honorable for over 8 million Russian troops to lose their lives to fight agaist Hitler.

98 posted on 05/13/2005 1:29:50 PM PDT by Echo Talon (http://echotalon.blogspot.com)
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To: Paul C. Jesup

This was an aside, hence the parentheses. I had to qualify my "yes". I could have qualified my "yes" more succinctly, and I did "rant" a little. Granted.

I know I did rant a bit. But, when anyone talks about putting up a memorial, or any other project that involves money, and potentially public money from the Taxpayer is at risk, the question is always "where is the money" coming from? In order for me to answer "yes" we should put up a memorial (or "no"), I had to qualify my position somewhat.

Many people throughout this country want "their" project funded, "their" memorial, their "artwork," their "R & D", "their" study, etc. You get the point.

Many people instinctively turn to the Government to fund all these little projects, and that's one of the reasons why the National Debt is so high, taxes are proposed and increased, and the IRS is under pressure to collect. These projects ADD UP very quickly. That's why I went on the little rant.

All these things are closely interrelated (projects > taxes > IRS > debt). I could have said "Yes, as long as it's not Taxpayer funded" (8 words max.) and that would have been it, true!


99 posted on 05/13/2005 1:33:19 PM PDT by Bald Eagle777 (Property tax is eternal rent. You can never own your own land. Why?)
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To: Xiaoding

Are you a Jew ?


100 posted on 05/13/2005 2:17:58 PM PDT by Grzegorz 246
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