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Should America Build A Holocaust Memorial for the 100 Million Victims of Communism?
May 13, 2005 | ComtedeMaistre

Posted on 05/13/2005 9:03:57 AM PDT by ComtedeMaistre

Some conservatives were angered by President Bush's decision to attend the military parade in Russia, where the Red Army was honored for its role in World War Two sixty years ago. The Red Army has a record of bloodshed that exceeds even that of the Nazi SS units.

The leaders of Lithuania and Estonia acted on principle, and decided to boycott the military parade in Russia honoring the Red Army, with communist hammer and sickle flags in full display. While we remember the victims of Nazism, we should not forget the tyranny that the Baltics and the rest of Eastern Europe was subjected to for over 40 years.

Communism killed 100 million people in the 20th Century, double the number who died in World War Two. America should build a memorial to victims of the Communist genocides in Ukraine, China, Cambodia, Russia, Vietnam,etc.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Foreign Affairs; Government; Russia; Your Opinion/Questions
KEYWORDS: bush; cambodia; communism; mao; russia; stalin
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To: Jaysun

The democrat party is Communist so we did not win.


21 posted on 05/13/2005 9:31:50 AM PDT by YOUGOTIT
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To: arachide

So, those sacrifices were willingly made- by the sacrificed? Are you misguided, or just...


22 posted on 05/13/2005 9:32:06 AM PDT by Treader (Hillary's dark smile is reminiscent of Stalin's inhuman grin...)
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To: ComtedeMaistre
The Holocaust Memorial Museum in DC is so constructed that including anything else in it just wouldn't work. The building itself is very specific to the crimes of the Third Reich.

OTOH, a memorial/museum for the >hundred million victims of international communism should be built, and it should include everthying from the decamegamurders of Stalin and Mao down to the nasty little Marxist kakistocracies of southeast Asia, Africa, and South America. And it should include the complicity of the American political "left" with the crimes of the overseas communist regimes. IMO.

23 posted on 05/13/2005 9:32:50 AM PDT by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilisation is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: Xiaoding
They got what they deserved.

Mighty Christian of you.

24 posted on 05/13/2005 9:34:09 AM PDT by ladyjane
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To: Treader
Some conservatives were angered by President Bush's decision to attend the military parade in Russia, where the Red Army was honored for its role in World War Two sixty years ago.

Why would some conservatives be mad that the President honored the death of 26.6 million people? The Parade wasn't about the years after WWII.

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25 posted on 05/13/2005 9:34:35 AM PDT by Echo Talon (http://echotalon.blogspot.com)
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To: ComtedeMaistre

I suggest we first get the New York Times to recognize the slaughter in the Ukraine.


26 posted on 05/13/2005 9:34:54 AM PDT by rudyudy
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To: OldFriend
Some Americans are angry. About everything and anything.

Some are Jan, then again some look at things with an unbiased eye. Dead is dead, and no human dying at the hands of another aquires special status by virtue of their DNA.

Dead Iraqis or Kurds aren't any more important than dead people in the Sudan or Rowanda. Missing or dead blonde girls from the upper Midwest aren't any more special than a dead black teen on the streets of LA. Millions of murdered somewhere in some geograpical/political/religious demographic are any better than those murdered in another.

This is not only logical, it is in keeping with the idea that we are all children of God.

27 posted on 05/13/2005 9:37:33 AM PDT by AAABEST (Kyrie eleison - Christe eleison †)
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To: Echo Talon
Look at the number of people that were killed by the USSR Communist outside of the war (over 25,000,000) and then look at who was on the side of Hitler in 1935,1936,1937,1938,1939 and until invasion, and precipitate in the invasion of Poland withthe Nazi. I would not give a crap if the Germans and Russians killed each other off in WW II. But without the aid of the United States the USSR would have gone down to defeat. Never forget that Stalin was on the edge of surrender until we started to send supplies and even then the USSR would not allow US drivers on their soil and the Russians had to take over the trucks as they passed the border with supplies from the US (they kept the trucks).
28 posted on 05/13/2005 9:38:11 AM PDT by YOUGOTIT
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To: Paul C. Jesup

As long as taxpayers don’t pay for it. We have to get rid of government spending across the board and put the Fat Lard Lady (our budget) on a severe diet.

[ I would like to see an eventual abolition of the property tax and income tax (and IRS code). The only way to do that is to roll back government spending to 1900 levels, pay OFF the National Debt and kill of all vestiges of socialism in the budget. Unplug all useless programs, bureaucracies, etc and roll the country back] I am sure that the private sector can set up a fund to adequately pay for such a memorial.

If property taxes can be permanently abolished (read: repealed), then an annual budget for maintaining such a memorial would not have to factor in property taxes, just basic maintenance (landscaping, monument maintenance, etc)

BTW, I am fairly certain that the number would be higher than 100M if you include ALL Communist-inspired events, movements, insurgencies and Governments from 1917 forward. Pol Pot, the Chinese Communist "Cultural Revolution", all the Asian and Central and South American insurgent groups; all of the Eastern Bloc government's, Stalin and the rest.

The real number is way off the charts and no one has the balls to really deal with this directly, yet. Some scholars like Richard Pipes are making inroads, but there is too much material to consider. On the other hand, the Left in America and Europe has either 1) denied Communist and Marxist-inspired killings or 2) grossly understated the numbers, when admitted.

When the smoke finally clears from the twentieth Century, scholars in maybe the next 200 or so years will be able to look back at this period of history with more objectivity.

A privately-funded memorial, with a caveat that the true, larger numbers have yet to be revealed, would be a nice start.


30 posted on 05/13/2005 9:38:56 AM PDT by Bald Eagle777 (Property tax is eternal rent. You can never own your own land. Why?)
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To: ComtedeMaistre
Should America Build A Holocaust Memorial for the 100 Million Victims of Communism?

Yes, but the Russians, Chinese, residual-in-retirement-unprosecuted Pol Pot followers, Vietnamese, Castro, Chavez, etc. should be made to pay for it.

31 posted on 05/13/2005 9:41:36 AM PDT by DoctorMichael (The Fourth Estate is a Fifth Column!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)
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To: YOUGOTIT

Again this parade was FOR ACTIONS TAKEN IN THE WAR, NOT WHAT CAME AFTER THE WAR.


32 posted on 05/13/2005 9:42:28 AM PDT by Echo Talon (http://echotalon.blogspot.com)
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To: Paul C. Jesup
Actually, the Russians should...

Brilliant. If Putin did this it would help his country more than almost anything I can think of... Russians haven't washed the boot marks off their necks yet. This would be a great start.

33 posted on 05/13/2005 9:42:59 AM PDT by GOPJ (Liberals haven't had a new idea in 40 years.)
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To: Paul C. Jesup
Actually, the Russians should...

Brilliant. If Putin did this it would help his country more than almost anything I can think of... Russians haven't washed the boot marks off their necks yet. Great start -- and it would help clean the slate with Western democracies. Really, brilliant.

34 posted on 05/13/2005 9:44:43 AM PDT by GOPJ (Liberals haven't had a new idea in 40 years.)
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To: ComtedeMaistre

A cheap way to build the Communist Holocaust Memorial: Kick the United Nations out of American and make that building the Memorial. Saving American taxpayers MILLIONS.


35 posted on 05/13/2005 9:45:26 AM PDT by fish hawk (I am only one, but I am not the only one.)
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To: Xiaoding
They got what they deserved.

Brilliant. Absolutely brilliant.

36 posted on 05/13/2005 9:47:07 AM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: Echo Talon

For the reason that the large majority of those counted as killed, were KIA as a result of Stalin's push of ethnics & miserables to the front lines. Not only into combat, but to resist by body count until real troops could logistically advance. You have swallowed a hook- spit it out.


38 posted on 05/13/2005 9:47:47 AM PDT by Treader (Hillary's dark smile is reminiscent of Stalin's inhuman grin...)
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To: ComtedeMaistre

Yes, I think it's an excellent idea. But it's not the first time it has been brought up. Democrats will never allow the building of such a memorial because that would be an admission that their political philosophy is rooted in blood, and in fact is an order of magnitude bloodier than Nazism.


39 posted on 05/13/2005 9:49:00 AM PDT by LibWhacker
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To: Treader
So those weren't people? Look into Russian military deaths in WWII and they are devastating also. Russia was our ally in WWII pretty disrespectful not to honor them. Dubya made it clear that he disagrees with what happened after the war.
40 posted on 05/13/2005 9:51:28 AM PDT by Echo Talon (http://echotalon.blogspot.com)
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