Posted on 05/13/2005 8:15:14 AM PDT by MikeEdwards
We live in a time of great change, in America and around the globe. Democracy is on the rise in parts of the world few thought possible, the Middle East of all places. But at the same time, nearly half of America is running toward socialism and most of them don’t even know it…
The Democratic Party was full of glee when Vermont Senator Jumpin’ Jim Jeffords defected from the Republican Party, re-titling himself an "Independent", but becoming a boot licking lackey for the DNC in the process. He had a long history of voting the other side of the aisle anyway, so it was no real loss for real Republicans. The defection was only symbolic…
The DNC ran its most liberal Senator for President and lost by almost 4 million votes, but didn’t heed the message in their defeat. They responded to the defeat by electing their most hate filled loud mouthed leftist as head of the new DNC, Screamin’ Howard Dean, who imploded in his own White House bid just months earlier. But just wait. It gets even better…
Jumpin’ Jim Jeffords is retiring his post in the senate, thank God! Guess who Screamin’ Dean, head of the DNC just endorsed as their candidate to replace Jeffords? A Vermont man named Bernie Sanders.
Like Jeffords, Bernie is not a Democrat, though the DNC has chosen him as their candidate to replace Jeffords. No, he is better than a Democrat, he is a proud card carrying socialist, by his own definition, a "democratic-socialist". A term he has used often to define his political beliefs. . . . .
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with this out of control spending, the republicans seem to be doing the same thing.
"don’t suppose pointing out that the DNC has now fully adopted the principles and candidates of Karl Marx would get a rise out of anyone either, even though you can lay the two party planks side by side without finding a single difference between the two ideologies."
Regretably GW Bush has taken us alot closer to socialism than any democratic President could have over these past few years :(
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This is a totally idiotic statement and disregards Mr. Clinton's contribution to the socializing of America, or should I say the communizing of America. President Bush has done nothing to encourage socialism.
What's with some of you on FR lately? I think we have and invasion of lefties on this forum trying to undermine confidence in President Bush.
If you don't like Bush go to DU, they will agree with any anti-Bush statement you want to make. Take the dozen of so FReepers who have lately started calling for impeachment of Bush. I know they are not republicans or conservatives and I strongly suspect you are not either.
Bush is who he is: someone who believes in what he believes in, and that is compassion and conservatism, and unfortunately sometimes he allows his compassion to lead his hands into the wallets of ordinary Americans.
He is a paradox: although he passed the largest entitlement since FDR, he included a "back door" privatization plan that COULD---if done right---basically end Medicare.
His tax cuts have kept the economy one step ahead of the big-spenders, including himself.
His unwillingness to get nasty has allowed the judges thing to drag on way too long.
But it's also "idiotic" to wish he were something other than who he is. The fact is, NO PRESIDENT, EVER, IN OUR ENTIRE HISTORY, has drastically cut the budget except during a deep recession. Calvin Coolidge cut it a little---but we paid for it by ignoring our armed forces. Martin Van Buren reduced government spending, but during a huge recession, so it's hard to figure if he really had much control. Even Thomas Jefferson's budgets increased absolutely and relatively during his terms. (And yes, they were tiny compared to today, but the principle remains).
In short, while Bush is not doing the "right thing" in my opinion, he is hardly out of line from ANY "conservatives" (Reagan, Eisenhower, Coolidge, Cleveland, Jefferson, etc.) While fighting a war against terrorism, it just may be politically impossible to hold the line in these other areas.
IMO it depends on the direction of the economy. When people become unemployed or underemployed they become susceptible to the false promise of socialism, if not out of conviction, out of desperation. And there will always be a politician offering the free lunch, if not out of conviction, out of lust for power.
Quote: What's with some of you on FR lately? I think we have and invasion of lefties on this forum trying to undermine confidence in President Bush.
Mayb because us that voted for him are not Rush/hannity koolaid drinkers?? ..and we don't like:
His out of control spending
No regard for our borders
patriot act laws that will come back to bite innocnet americans
Increse entitlement spending (medicare drug card)
rise in twin deficits
More outsourcing/loss of manufacturing jobs
Other than the tax cut and his WOT I don't like what he has done.
Like the saying goes, "it takes a Republican to..."
Given the way Bush has not used the Presidential veto even once, and has allowed the federal bureaucracies to grow (and added new ones!), he's more like Nixon than Reagan. Perhaps not so coincidentally, he's about as hated by the Left as Nixon was, too.
The lesson to take from RN's presidency was that he funded the Great Society programs of the 60's. Once elected, he didn't become "reactionary" and roll them back, he figured out how to let them take hold, and added the EPA and affirmative action to boot. Bush is the same with the No Child Left Behind and Dept of Homeland Security nonsense.
Nixon went on record and said he was a Keynsian. Given how Bush has let the federal government spend vast sums of money in the name of stimulating the economy during the last recession, he, too, must be a Keynsian, at heart and in instinct. It's only the GOP's legacy of favoring a more open economy, IMO, that prevented him from going all out and trying to solve that recession by regulations. And the latter, of course, is the incremental road to socialism.
I don't think conservatives can look back on this administration without concluding that Bush is living on the legacy of the conservative movement. He was backed by the most of the base in his two elections because the Republicans are ostencibly the conservative party, and because of any hardline record from his days as governor of Texas. If this is the case, one has to wonder how much damage he is doing to the Republican brand, in the long run, as his domestic legacy becomes more clear. Will voters of a more conservative bent continue to back the party?
What I don't get is - who's to blame? In 1999, GWB and McCain emerged as the two Party favorites. Both are decidedly weak conservatives. How is it the primary process didn't produce decent candidates?
"If you don't like Bush go to ...." - calex59
Gee, I thought this was Free Republic, not Bush Republic. The sad fact is that real NONDEFENSE DISCRETIONARY spending increased more during Bush's first term than during the first term of ANY president since LBJ. If the trend persists, please consider the consequences.
"More outsourcing/loss of manufacturing jobs" And now comes the big push for CAFTA.
Personally... This Conservative has had a belly full...
Go ahead Mr. Bush/Congress/Senate... Pass CAFTA... Grant Amnesty to illegal aliens...Ignore the borders all you want... Search my 85 year old grandmother at the airport... Give my Tax dollars (Foreign Aid) to countries that openly hate the US... Keep MFN for China... Keep the US in the corrupt UN while funding 25% of the UN's budget... Increase spending all you want...
If this keeps up, the Republican Party will suffer because at some point people like me will decide to never vote the "lesser of two evils" again...
GWB's "Compassionate Conservatism" reminds me of Richard Nixons' "New Federalism" and its lasting gift to America's Left, the EPA. Just think what Hillary Clinton will be able to do with the Dept. of Homeland Security when she becomes president. The midnight, "knock-on-the-door" isn't far off with the tools RINO's will leave behind for the DEM's to use.
FreeRepublic is a conservative chat zone, not a Bush chat zone. If Bush has abandoned conservative principles (and he has) then conservatives should definitely speak up on FR.
Exactly!
"President Bush has done nothing to encourage socialism"
How 'bout the SS prescription benefit?
"How is it the primary process didn't produce decent candidates?"
Exactly!
That's what I always wonder. There are - what - like 300 and some odd million Americans and this is all we can come up with?
That's why last time round (and likely forever more) I voted my conscience and went Libertarian. Do they have a prayer? Of course not. But my hope is that if they start to show a little better in the polls the Republican party will get the message.
What else can you do?
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