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Base Closure List
Various | 13 May 05 | Self

Posted on 05/13/2005 6:29:41 AM PDT by SLB

Sa far Ft Monmouth, NJ; Grotton, CT, Portsmouth Navy, Brunswick Navy and Ellsworth, SD.


TOPICS: Government; US: New Mexico
KEYWORDS: brac; cnim; connecticut; ct; groton; nh; submarinebase
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To: ckilmer

I see your reserve center is closing


401 posted on 05/13/2005 9:45:57 AM PDT by KC Burke (Men of intemperate minds can never be free....)
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To: wita
From AP story...

During the 2004 campaign, Republican John Thune told voters that if elected to replace then Senate Minority Leader Tom Daschle, his Republican ties would ensure that the base remained open. Daschle said that as minority leader, he would have an appointment to the Base Realignment and Closure Commission and be in a better position to help Ellsworth.

Not that I consider it gospel, nor do I support Daschle. I am simply agreeing with your point that it shouldn't be political.

402 posted on 05/13/2005 9:46:53 AM PDT by Gondring (Pretend you don't know me...I'm in the WPPFF.)
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To: judicial meanz; submarinerswife; PogySailor; chasio649; gobucks; Bottom_Gun; Dog Gone; HipShot; ...

PING! Come look see who's on the BRAC list. Try not to giggle too much!


403 posted on 05/13/2005 9:48:34 AM PDT by Doohickey (CO during fire drill: "Are we conducting a training evolution or porpoising for the hell of it?")
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To: MikeinIraq

No, it's not. But they should be able to merge NAVSUBSCOL into TRITRAFAC fairly easily.


404 posted on 05/13/2005 9:50:04 AM PDT by Doohickey (CO during fire drill: "Are we conducting a training evolution or porpoising for the hell of it?")
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To: Non-Sequitur

Does that mean Norfolk is safe? Please say "Yes."


405 posted on 05/13/2005 9:52:07 AM PDT by BykrBayb (Impeach Judge Greer - In memory of Terri Schindler <strike>Schiavo</strike> - www.terrisfight.org)
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To: deport

Texas has the third largest gain of any state (after Maryland and Georgia).


406 posted on 05/13/2005 9:53:37 AM PDT by FreedomCalls (It's the "Statue of Liberty," not the "Statue of Security.")
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To: anniegetyourgun
Any word on NAS Whidbey?

Naval Air Station Whidbey Island losing 34 military billets but adding 173 civilan jobs for a net gain of 139.

407 posted on 05/13/2005 9:53:46 AM PDT by StayAt HomeMother
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To: BykrBayb
Does that mean Norfolk is safe? Please say "Yes."

Not that it's up to me, but I would say 'yes'. If anything it's a gain since Norfolk will no doubt get the subs stationed in Groton. Norfolk is far too big to close. There isn't any alternative to it.

408 posted on 05/13/2005 9:55:57 AM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: Glenn
Grotton, CT, Portsmouth Navy
is that a shipyard?
Grotton is a sub base in Connecticut. Portsmouth is a naval shipyard in New Hampshire. These are the proposed New England closures: Ah, the benefits of being in the bluest region of the country just continue to accrue!
409 posted on 05/13/2005 9:56:22 AM PDT by JAWs
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To: Jim Noble
I notice that NNMC Bethesda is growing about the same amount that WRAMC is losing. Are they being consolidated?

Yes, along with Andrews. The Andrews hospital will become a clinc. As I understnd it, there will be a $1-billion joint super-hospital to be built based at Bethesda but under Army control.

410 posted on 05/13/2005 9:56:42 AM PDT by FreedomCalls (It's the "Statue of Liberty," not the "Statue of Security.")
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To: Non-Sequitur

Thank God! (for my own selfish reasons.)


411 posted on 05/13/2005 9:57:53 AM PDT by BykrBayb (Impeach Judge Greer - In memory of Terri Schindler <strike>Schiavo</strike> - www.terrisfight.org)
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To: SLB

It's great comedy for me every time they have one of these base closures. You get these anti-war anti-America anti-military anti-conservative liberal Democrats suddenly turning into instant HAWKS the minute a base closure is threatened in their district.

Here in Austin, we closed Bergstrom Air Force Base in the mid-90s when it hit the endangered list. It's now Bergstrom Airport, replacing the old and poorly designed facility that had become outdated. The old airport is being converted into business and park land.

Yet there were liberal peacenick pols who went ape---- when it was announced the base would need to be closed. Oh, the humanity! Oh, the loss of jobs! Suddenly, these soldiers weren't "baby-killers" anymore!

So when you hear all this crying and posturing about base closures just remember that the government never cancels anything that still has a legitimate need. We should applaud one of the few times it truly does downsize something other than their IQs.


412 posted on 05/13/2005 9:59:44 AM PDT by Tall_Texan (If you can think 180-degrees apart from reality, you might be a Democrat.)
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To: SLB

They're also closing down (again) part of Rome Air Base in Rome, NY. Our economy is bad enough. Too bad.


413 posted on 05/13/2005 10:00:15 AM PDT by Marysecretary (Thank you, Lord, for FOUR MORE YEARS!!!)
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To: All

Portsmouth Naval Shipyard is sited on an island between Maine and New Hampshire. It is actually in Maine, not NH.


414 posted on 05/13/2005 10:02:50 AM PDT by crv16
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To: BykrBayb
Does that mean Norfolk is safe? Please say "Yes."

Safe, yes, and growing. What part of Norfolk are you asking about?

Naval Shipyard Norfolk net gain 2,036

Naval Support Activity Norfolk net gain 788

Naval Medical Center Portsmouth net loss 461

Naval Station Norfolk net gain 2,807

415 posted on 05/13/2005 10:05:05 AM PDT by StayAt HomeMother
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To: Tall_Texan

And, to prove my point as if on cue, there's Ted Kennedy crying like a child about some closure in Massachusetts. Priceless!


416 posted on 05/13/2005 10:05:23 AM PDT by Tall_Texan (If you can think 180-degrees apart from reality, you might be a Democrat.)
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To: gridlock
During the 2004 campaign, Republican John Thune told voters that if elected to replace then Senate Minority Leader Tom Daschle, his GOP ties would ensure that the base remained open. Daschle said that as minority leader, he would have an appointment to the Base Realignment and Closure Commission and be in a better position to help Ellsworth.

If any SD voters really made their decisions based on base closures and pork it's hard to feel too sorry for them. I do feel sorry for those who will lose their jobs, but unfortunately their loss is for the ultimate good of the country. It's not much consolation I know.

I can't support either Daschle or Thune making promises like that - that's how Harkin operates here in Iowa. The base decisions should be made for the good of the country, not on political influence.

417 posted on 05/13/2005 10:05:56 AM PDT by Randjuke
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To: Glenn; Doohickey

Portsmouth NSY is a shipyard in Maine, I think the Groton "part" of that shipyard (its facilities near Groton CT) were used to stage and assemble the Trident hull "circles" for the trident construction. It was a former USCG/US sub patrol airplane (Naval Air Station) facility out near the sound.

Groton CT is the location of Naval Sub School, Navy Subase, etc, etc....


418 posted on 05/13/2005 10:06:39 AM PDT by Robert A Cook PE (-I can only contribute to FR monthly, but Hillary's ABBCNNBCBS contributes to her campaign every day)
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To: kalee; Howlin
Thanks Howlin' for this information.

"They will blame Bush, not Kerry or Kennedy."

Just heard a clip of Kennedy decrying the Otis base closure.

Wonder how DU'ers are going to accept the libs demanding dreaded military bases stay open?
419 posted on 05/13/2005 10:07:50 AM PDT by BlessedByLiberty (Respectfully submitted,)
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To: JAWs; Doohickey
Ah, the benefits of being in the bluest region of the country just continue to accrue!

It may be a good decision, but I am saddened to see the SubBase go. Most all of us that wear Dolphins have been through New London.

You'll notice that there aren't a lot of affected bases in Northern California. That's because there's hardly anything left from the earlier base closures. Travis AFB was spared but the Concord Naval Station is on the list. However, as we discussed yesterday, that may not be a bad thing:
Base Closing OK With California City

420 posted on 05/13/2005 10:08:15 AM PDT by SmithL (Proud Submariner)
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