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G.O.P. Moderates in Senate Sense Intensifying Pressures
NY Times ^ | May 13, 2005 | SHERYL GAY STOLBERG

Posted on 05/12/2005 8:17:47 PM PDT by neverdem

WASHINGTON, May 12 - The unusual pact that permitted the nomination of John R. Bolton to go forward on Thursday without the support of a crucial Republican senator has exposed, in a very raw and public way, the extreme pressures facing Republican moderates in a Senate that is increasingly dominated by conservatives.

President Bush called the dissenting Republican, Senator George V. Voinovich of Ohio, on Wednesday, the day before the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, on which Mr. Voinovich serves, was to take up the nomination, the White House spokesman, Scott McClellan, said.

Karl Rove, the president's powerful political adviser, and Andrew H. Card Jr., the chief of staff, also called to chat with Mr. Voinovich in recent weeks, Mr. McClellan said.

And Mr. Voinovich, who has steadfastly refused to answer questions about any discussions with the White House, is hardly the only Republican who is feeling the squeeze these days.

From the fight over Mr. Bolton to the looming blowup over the president's judicial nominees to the debate over the proposal to overhaul Social Security, Republican moderates are caught in the middle as never before. As they look to the near future, to a possible vacancy on the Supreme Court, they realize that the pressures will only intensify.

"Bolton is a perfect example of putting the moderates in an impossible situation," said Senator Lincoln Chafee, the Rhode Island Republican who also sits on the Foreign Relations Committee and who agonized publicly over Mr. Bolton for weeks. "It's a no-win. Either we don't support the president or we vote for a very unpopular pick to represent us at the United Nations."

The elections in November put seven new Republicans, nearly all conservatives, in the Senate, increasing the party's majority to 55. As moderate Senate Republicans look out around the country, they are comforted by the ranks of moderate governors like Arnold Schwarzenegger in California, George E. Pataki in New York and Mitt Romney in Massachusetts.

But here in the Capitol, their numbers are so few, said Senator Arlen Specter, Republican of Pennsylvania, that they quit having their weekly lunches about a year ago.

"Susan and I were there alone for so much of the time," Mr. Specter he said, referring to Senator Susan Collins of Maine, "we worked through all of our conversation and decided to disband."

As Mr. Voinovich's refusal to support Mr. Bolton's nomination demonstrates, "the vanishing center"-as another centrist Republican, Senator Olympia J. Snowe of Maine, often says - can still play a powerful role. There are just four core centrists in the Senate, Mr. Chafee, Ms. Collins, Ms. Snowe and Mr. Specter. They are joined from time to time by mavericks like Senators John McCain of Arizona, Chuck Hagel of Nebraska and Mr. Voinovich.

The pressure from the White House and Republican leadership can at times be unrelenting. So much so that some have learned how to pre-empt it.

Mr. Chafee told reporters repeatedly that he was inclined to support Mr. Bolton, a move that his spokesman, Steven Hourahan, said was intended to send a clear signal to the White House about where Mr. Chafee stood.

As a result, Mr. Hourahan said, the senator received just one call from a high-level official. Mr. Card telephoned on the eve of what was supposed to be a committee vote on the nomination. The vote was delayed by Mr. Voinovich, who insisted on having more time to investigate accusations about Mr. Bolton's temperament and management style.

The senator has met administration officials, as well as Mr. Bolton, and has visited with Senator Bill Frist, the majority leader.

But he was careful not to take the White House and the leadership by surprise. In the days leading up to the vote, he informed Senator Richard G. Lugar, the Foreign Relations Committee chairman, and Dr. Frist of his decision. "Senator Voinovich arrived at his decision," said Eric Ueland, Dr. Frist's chief of staff, "and we arrived at the process for moving the nomination to the full Senate."

The next squeeze, for the moderates, will be the explosive question of whether Republican leaders should change Senate rules to bar Democrats from using the filibuster, a two-century-old parliamentary tactic, to block the judicial nominees. Dr. Frist is advocating the change, and a confrontation is widely expected next week. Mr. . McCain and Mr. Chafee have said they will oppose it, and Ms. Snowe has indicated strongly that she will do so, too.

Mr. Specter is in a particularly tight spot. He is trying to remain neutral, but as Judiciary Committee chairman is expected to advocate for the nominees. John Breaux, a centrist Democrat who was in the Senate until last year, said defying party leaders could be especially risky for a committee chairman.

"They can put an awful lot of pressure on you," he said of the leaders. "They say, 'Look, you're a chairman because your party is in control, and you've got to be with the party.' So when you break with them, you have to be fast on foot to explain it."

Ms. Collins, chairwoman of the domestic security committee, is also taking that risk. Along with Ms. Snowe, she has expressed reservations about the rules change, as well as the Social Security plan. Last week, the two returned to Maine to find themselves the targets of an advertising campaign on the judicial nominees, a campaign that had the endorsement of Dr. Frist.

By this week, Ms. Collins seemed a bit worn down by that debate. "It seems like it's issue after issue this year," she said, adding that she often envies "those senators for whom everything is black and white."

Ms. Snowe, meanwhile, had a message for fellow Republicans: "Frankly," she said, "the election of the president drew from Americans who describe themselves as moderates, which is about 45 percent of Americans today. That's something we overlook at our own peril."

Richard W. Stevenson contributed reporting for this article.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Arizona; US: District of Columbia; US: Maine; US: Nebraska; US: Ohio; US: Pennsylvania; US: Tennessee
KEYWORDS: 109th; bolton; johnrbolton; republicanparty; rinos; senate; ussenate
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Poor babies!
1 posted on 05/12/2005 8:17:47 PM PDT by neverdem
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To: neverdem
Why can't these "moderates" just join the Dems?
2 posted on 05/12/2005 8:19:24 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist (Harmful Or Fatal If Swallowed)
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To: neverdem
Republican moderates are caught in the middle...

Nothing like the Slimes re-defining the political "middle". If these "republicans" acted as such instead of the Rino's they actually are, they would not be caught in the "middle".

3 posted on 05/12/2005 8:21:05 PM PDT by C210N (-)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
Cause they would be like Jumping Jim Jeffords never to be trusted.

The demo rats only like you if you are a white guy passing or a member of the Klan or an oppressor of the working class.

4 posted on 05/12/2005 8:21:28 PM PDT by dts32041 (Two words that shouldn't be used in the same sentence Grizzly bear and violate.)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
Why can't these "moderates" just join the Dems?

If they did, I don't think you would like the result.

5 posted on 05/12/2005 8:21:48 PM PDT by neverdem (May you be in heaven a half hour before the devil knows that you're dead.)
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To: neverdem
[The unusual pact that permitted the nomination of John R. Bolton to go forward on Thursday without the support of a crucial Republican senator has exposed, in a very raw and public way, the extreme pressures facing Republican moderates in a Senate that is increasingly dominated by conservatives.]

Dunh. Dunh. Duuuuuuunh!

The drama queens in NYC are in full estrogen flower, as usual.

6 posted on 05/12/2005 8:22:54 PM PDT by Mad_Tom_Rackham (Delenda est Liberalism!)
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To: neverdem

I'm so sick of RINO's. Why don't people vote for real conservatives?


7 posted on 05/12/2005 8:23:00 PM PDT by Stonedog (I don't know what your problem is, but I bet it's difficult to pronounce.)
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To: neverdem

I think Voinavich can kiss Wright-Paterson goodbye.


8 posted on 05/12/2005 8:25:10 PM PDT by struwwelpeter
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To: neverdem

And this is different than the public humiliation the dems put their moderates through?

Hardly the radical left wing groups like PAW and moveon run tv ads to humiliate their moderates.


9 posted on 05/12/2005 8:25:23 PM PDT by federal
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To: neverdem; All
Go to Senator's George V. Voinovich's web site and send him a message!

I just did, told him to stop being a WISH WASH and vote Bolton on to the Floor for confirmation by the full Senate.

This is a NO WEENIE ZONE!

10 posted on 05/12/2005 8:26:25 PM PDT by agincourt1415 (4 More Years of NEW SHERIFF IN TOWN!)
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To: Stonedog

Because real conservatives constitute only 20% MAX of the current voting age population. We need to educate the rest. That's our job.


11 posted on 05/12/2005 8:26:46 PM PDT by Mad_Tom_Rackham (Delenda est Liberalism!)
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To: Stonedog

In some cases, the state is too liberal to support a conservative (ie. Maine and Rhode Island). Other times they tend to get in and change over time (McCain) or are powerful political figures to begin with that they win easily (Voinovich). The good news is that the "hardcore centrists" as this article calls them have been in decline for quite some time, but we still have the cabal of mavericks that pop up and cause heck for us.


12 posted on 05/12/2005 8:26:47 PM PDT by Galactic Overlord-In-Chief (Any Freepers who enjoy fantasy, I welcome to look at my FR homepage to take a look at my new book)
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To: neverdem

Voinovich, Wright-Patterson. Sorry, drunk again.


13 posted on 05/12/2005 8:27:06 PM PDT by struwwelpeter
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By the way I think Bolton is too nice, I would rather send Atilla the Hun to the United Nations, but he is no longer available.


14 posted on 05/12/2005 8:27:54 PM PDT by agincourt1415 (4 More Years of NEW SHERIFF IN TOWN!)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

then we wont have a majority. moderates are good beause they can get elected in place of democrats and it gives the GOP a majority in the senate.


15 posted on 05/12/2005 8:28:40 PM PDT by minus_273
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To: neverdem
G.O.P. Moderates in Senate Sense Intensifying Pressures

During the reign of Queen Elizabeth I Catholics who were caught harboring a priests were executed for treason. Typically they were hanged, drawn, and quartered, and their families were stripped of all their possessions.

In British law, you could plead innocent, guilty, or nolo contendere. If you pled guilty, you were executed. If you pled innocent, you were tried, convicted and executed.

Those who pled nolo contendere, if they continued to refuse to plead either innocent or guilty, were pressed to death by having planks laid on their chests, on top of which were piled a steadily increasing weight of stones, until they suffocated.

That was the fate of Margaret Clitheroe, who allowed herself to be pressed to death rather than confess to treason and have her family deprived of all its possessions.

Now, I'm not suggesting that we should treat RINO senators in that fashion, but perhaps this traditional form of legal punishment might give the Republican leadership a few ideas about what real pressure is, and how to apply it to recalcitrant colleagues in a good cause.

16 posted on 05/12/2005 8:29:30 PM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: neverdem
If they did, I don't think you would like the result.

I'd rather face Dem socialists than socialists who disguise themselves as Republicans and impede the conservative agenda.

17 posted on 05/12/2005 8:30:15 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist (Harmful Or Fatal If Swallowed)
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To: neverdem
Ms. Snowe, meanwhile, had a message for fellow Republicans: "Frankly," she said, "the election of the president drew from Americans who describe themselves as moderates, which is about 45 percent of Americans today. That's something we overlook at our own peril."

Frankly, my dear, I don't give a damn. Though I would like you to provide stats to prove this charge. Half of Americans are NOT moderate, they are only too cowardly to stake out which side they fall on.

Sounds like the NYT's and the McRINO's are not happy. How dare we demand party loyalty from those we elected to represent Republicans. I can hear the violins playing.

18 posted on 05/12/2005 8:30:59 PM PDT by Soul Seeker
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To: neverdem
Moderate = Spineless Bastard

Believe in something, even if it's liberalism. That way we'll know how to deal with you.
19 posted on 05/12/2005 8:31:43 PM PDT by Jaysun (No matter how hot she is, some man, somewhere, is tired of her sh*t)
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To: minus_273
then we wont have a majority. moderates are good beause they can get elected in place of democrats and it gives the GOP a majority in the senate.

More party over principle baloney. The GOP has had the majority since 1994. What have they accomplished other than appeasing the Left?

20 posted on 05/12/2005 8:31:45 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist (Harmful Or Fatal If Swallowed)
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