Posted on 05/12/2005 12:41:32 PM PDT by wagglebee
Heres a story that will throw you for a loop: a "chaplain at the U.S. Air Force Academy is complaining that the schools administration has a "systemic and pervasive problem of promoting religious religious values with a Christian bent.
The chaplain, Capt. Melinda Morton, a "Lutheran minister spoke out publicly on Tuesday as an Air Force task force arrived at the academy to investigate charges that officers and staff members pushed their religious beliefs on cadets.
And she claimed that a tolerance program developed at the academy, called Respecting the Spiritual Values of all People (R.S.V.P.), was watered down after it was shown to officers.
Maj. Gen. Charles C. Baldwin, chief of chaplains for the Air Force, screened the 90-minute R.S.V.P. film in October, according to Capt. Morton, and asked her: "Why is it that the Christians never win? in reaction to some of the programs depictions of cadet interactions.
"Chaplain Mortons complaints about too much religion at the military academy is creating waves, and earned her hero status in a report in the New York Times Thursday.
Gen. Baldwin acknowledged in an interview that he felt too many scenes in the film portrayed Christians at fault for excessive evangelical proselytizing.
He also said he asked that the Air Force cut segments on non-Christian religions such as Buddhism, Judaism and Native American spirituality.
The problem in dealing with proselytizing and church-state issues at the academy, he explained, "always is, when is a person crossing the line, or when are they being a positive person of faith, like our president.
Last year, the Colorado Springs academy invited Yale Divinity School professor Kristen Leslie and six Yale graduate students to visit the school and observe how the chaplains minister to the cadets.
A memo from the Yale team cited the "stridently evangelical themes at a worship service attended by 600 new cadets.
Leslie said a chaplain urged cadets to pray for those who didnt attend and "remind them of the consequences ... those not born again will burn in the fires of hell.
But academy spokesman Johnny Whitaker disputed that account, saying several other chaplains told him that no one mentioned burning "in the fires of hell.
Morton, a 48-year-old "Lutheran minister," said she was removed from her post as executive officer to the chief chaplain, Col. Michael Whittington, last week. She claimed the dismissal came after he pressured her to deny details of what happened at the religious service.
But Whitaker said Whittington sent Morton an e-mail on May 4 saying he was removing her "to ensure a smooth and complete transition for new leaders.
Morgan said she had stepped forward because "its the Constitution, not just a nice rule we can follow or not follow. That includes not using your power to advance your religious agenda.
She acknowledged that after speaking out, "I dont think I have much future in the Air Force.
In Isaiah 3:12 God implies that one of the worst things that can happen to a nation is to have women rule over it. His exact words are: "As for my people, children are their oppressors, and women rule over them. O my people, they which lead thee cause thee to err, and destroy the way of thy paths."
Idjit!
Although I have already been beat to the punch on this one, WOMEN SHOULD NOT BE PASTORS!
So YOU'RE the one!
#22..That's a woman?....is that her?
Who's Lying to You About Early Feminism? Susan B. Anthony: Lucifer's Babe?
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1034222/posts
also at
http://mensnewsdaily.com/archive/l/lemasters/lemasters120203.htm
I can see where a cadet might feel pressured by an overzealous chaplain.
Minister to those who come to you and your services, and leave everybody else alone!
Having a penis makes men superior in all those ranks?No.
Having testicles does.
,,, mommas don't let your daughters grow up to be cowboys.
I was and always will be a U. S. Air Force Airman. I want her out of my U. S. Air Force. I want God in every cockpit of every aircraft and every tool box of everyone that comes in contact with our aircraft in the U. S. Military. God Bless America and all who have and will defend Her.
LOL
And then your commanding officer should have booted her right out of the service.
I say this line tells it all.
How does a woman get ordained in the first place? Do they ever read the word?
Or Kiwis ??? :o)
Sorry dude. But it stopped being your school when they ripped down the motto on the main building, "Give Me Men." They don't want real men anymore. They want tough, butch-dyke womyn and sissified girlie-guys. Blame the brass and our "Commanders-in-Chief" for letting this degradation occur.
Why do I see this actually inciting MORE talk of Christianity?
Just as an example, I know the first words I thought upon reading it were "Jesus Christ."
When I was in the AF (granted that was in the 60's) it was Thule Greenland, which everyone considered getting assigned to, as the Pitts--"the end of the world."
Wonder if that's still the case?
Bears repeating.
And, he'd puke if he saw the pictures posted in Nos. 22, 79, and 189 above.
Eeeeeew-w-w-w-w-w-w-w!
Take a good look at those photos.
For the love of God, how can those so-called men sitting in the background just sit there and take it? Wussies.
Pfffffffff. I had a 67 Cougar back when it was Motor Trends Car of the Year.
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