Posted on 05/12/2005 7:10:00 AM PDT by dukeman
Something has them in a deep funk over on DU. Hate and fear are always the coin of the realm over there, but now they seem to have a heightened sense of foreboding- as if another catastrophic shoe is about to drop. Take a look:
TheWatcher (582 posts) Thu May-12-05 01:20 AM
Original message
This Country Is About To Explode
No not in a physical sense or a terrorist attack sense. Although with all the staged Trial Balloons of the last couple of days, it might very well happen.
No, in a metaphorical sense.
And I think what I mean by that is on a mental and spiritual level, it seems that things all around us in general are unraveling. You can FEEL something in the air, and I think most of you know what I am talking about. It seems as though our Civilization is slowly unraveling before our eyes, and it will be interesting to see how things go from here on out.
We can pretty much predict what our Favorite Crime Family will do. They will stay on the course they are on, but I am beginning to wonder if unforeseen variables are going to make things interesting.
They CAN'T control everything. And they are making things so unstable that things may happen that they didn't plan for. And no, I don't exactly know what.
But I have been observing people in general for the past few days, and believe me, the pot is simmering. People are behaving strangely, edgy, agitated, and just plain strange and restless. And no one really knows why.
From a psychological perspective, I think we are beginning to see the effects of everything that has occurred in this country over the past few years. All of the lies and all of the crap is beginning to take a mental toll on the entire population, which beings me back to the unforeseen variables I mentioned earlier.
Quite simply, I don't think we can all take much more of this. I really don't. Things are at the beginning stages of boil, and I wonder how long before this country begins to look like the movie "Falling Down."
We are starting to slowly notice the effects of all the lies, the crimes, the scandals, the propaganda, apathy, anger, rage, and discontent that are a direct cause of the cesspool our country has become politically and economically.
In short, the country is slowly going Mad.
And today's little staged stunt [the wayward plane over D.C.] isn't going to help matters. This was B-Movie Production at it's WORST, and i don't think one single person here bought it.
Things are reaching a fever pitch of insanity.
We know what their playbook is.
But I am starting to wonder if the unraveling of Civilization itself and the unpredictability of the consequences of such is going to throw and interesting wrench in things.
Only time will tell, but Something is definitely up. many of us ave had that feeling for months, but something is going to break within the next couple of months I think.
Thoughts?
autorank (1000+ posts)
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1. I pick "the unraveling of Civilization itself"
Bit of a cynical mood myself but I could easily be persuaded otherwise. I'm so tired of anticipating a 'tipping point' that I become weary. However, I do sense what your saying. Let's hope that the maddness is of the type, "I'm mad as Hell and I'm not going to take it any more."
undergroundpanther (1000+ posts)
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3. I have had dreams
about this **** well before Bush.
I was scared years ago, of the republicons when raygun was in office..I hated him than.Glad the corrupt f***** is finaslly dead,and I hate how he got away with Iran Contra and his cozy ups with the Christian fundy fascists..
Things never change when families of criminals make alliances and pretend they are not in on it.
FreedomAngel82 (1000+ posts)
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4. I think so too
For a while now I've thought anytime soon things would just pop. If you sit silently and just meditate (or don't even) you can feel things are ready to pop. I don't think we can take much more of this nonsense and unpeaceful living. The question is when will things pop? Today was a good sense of what's to come. The Bush administration will do anything to keep their power. I wonder what made them do today's events.
Kerrytravelers (1000+ posts)
Response to Reply #4
8. I wonder what made them do today's events.
I fear what is coming up that they were distracting us from.
Or, what are they planning (think June.. think Scott Ritter... think Iran.)
I live in fear.
FreedomAngel82 (1000+ posts)
Response to Reply #8
15. Fear and paranoia
Definietly not healthy. *sigh* Bush has ruined us all.
mmonk (1000+ posts)
Response to Reply #39
79. I am much more gray (my hair) than just a few years ago and I can feel the stress on my system. It feels claustrophobic.
Tigress DEM (1000+ posts)
Response to Reply #4
21. What happened specifically today? I was out of the loop researching..
Got a book I am writing and had some things to do. Of course, I killed my TV long ago.
All I heard about was:
Bolton had forced his first wife to have group sex and she dumped him then and there, left him holding someone or himself in Italy.
The memo from the UK hit the fan.
Some abortion extremist named Horsely admitted to having sex with a mule and that "everybody on a Georgia farm does it" was his defense
and ongoing stuff here.
Kerrytravelers (1000+ posts)
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6. Reading this made me wonder if you are reading my mind.
I have felt this same unrest. Even those asleep at the wheel are coming out of their REM sleep and are hearing the alarm clock begin to beep in the morning. They are recognizing that things really aren't getting any better.
There will be a revolt. A peasant's revolt. It's going to get a whole lot worse before it gets a whole lot better.
See you there on the front lines!
TheWatcher (582 posts)
Response to Reply #6
12. Indeed.
I think there is a general energy that is shared among us right now, and those of us who can sense it know that things are about to "pop." Another poster said earlier up the thread that this was a "Hopeless Attitude", which i find completely confusing, because there is no attitude here, just an observation and an awareness of the general energy and mood of things.
The situation is not hopeless, but let's be realistic. There are likely unpleasantries that will have to be survived as we go through the endgame of this nightmare.
However, we MUST maintain our hope and continue to fight for what we believe in.
As for the Front lines, I will be standing right there with you.
FreedomAngel82 (1000+ posts) Thu May-12-05 01:50 AM
Newsjock (1000+ posts)
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10. People who -know- are at the breaking point
... caused largely by the daily sight of people who don't know -- or who do know and don't care -- about everything that's happening inside this nation's government.
Living here in an oh-so-red county, I'm finding that I get visibly angry just at the sight of a Hummer on the road (and they're every-freakin'-where around these parts). I get angry at the rich suburban yuppies in their gated communities and their perfect SUVs and their perfect kids on the soccer team who are all doing drugs behind mommy's back but they don't know about it. I get angry at the incredible poverty on the other side of town, how it has engulfed countless thousands of lives and turned life itself into a hopeless morass of despair from which there is no escape. I get especially angry at the "Support Our Troops" ribbons that are placed right next to the "God Bless the USA" ribbons on far too many vehicles on the freeway. My middle finger is getting lots of work these days.
The bottom line is that I'm reaching a very uncomfortable position where I now assume that the "other person" in almost any situation is someone who's drank the Kool-Aid. And that sets off an entire cascade of anger and rage inside me, and it's damned unhealthy. I've caught myself half-murmuring "damn asshole" at people I see and find particularly loathsome, and if I don't watch it, either I'm going to say it out loud soon, or someone's going to read my lips and give me a swift punch in the face.
And, believe it or not, I'm a big ol' wimp. I hate violence. But the times are on the brink of turning me into a violent man.
You're right -- we're quickly boiling over, and I pray that something can stop it before it's too late.
In Truth We Trust (974 posts)
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11. whatever it is, it is long overdue,,,,,,,,, enough is enough!
Erika (1000+ posts)
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13. You are absolutely correct
The ramblings I've heard of the grenade incident has brought this home. Bush has torn this country apart. He is 100% hated and despised. He has taken the profits of our workers and shifted them to his globalist buddies. He wishes to bankrupt this country with his buds in control of the remaining $. He has taken the hope away from this country and the Christian need we feel to take care of the needy and replaced it with the need to make the rich even richer. Yes, the pot is about to boil over. He will pay for illegals health care while spitting on our own. He will send SS benefits to Mexico while telling us to expect reduced benefits. Yes, we've about had it.
KissMyAsscroft (1000+ posts)
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14. I think the constant of media scare tactics has an effect.
I think that people have become so desensitized that it leads to a sort of daze in human interaction. I think that may be what you are feeling.
24/7 News propaganda is not healthy. And people watch hours of it every day.
nashville_brook (1000+ posts)
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16. "unpredictability" will be due to how Civil-ization DOESN'T unravel
something we learned from germany under hitler was that people participate in the lie and litterally "fill-in" the blanks reality keeps serving up.
i think this cuts both ways.
the right will continue to gorge on a false sense of authoritarian power...
and I HOPE the left begins to operate from the real sense of solving problems for ourselves and our kids in the near term. it's the best channel i can think of with this anxious energy you describe -- i feel it too, btw.
i think today's shenanigans were a dry-run for when they start up the draft or declare martial law or some such desperate measure.
Erika (1000+ posts)
Response to Reply #16
19. The left will work toward solving problems?
How are they to do that? They have not the power or control of the media. Isn't the administration in power supposed to be the problem solver. They have the majority and the press, where are their solutions? If you don't expect it out of them, why do you expect it from the minority party?
shanti (1000+ posts)
Response to Reply #16
43. yup
and the camps are ready and waiting for us.
Tux (1000+ posts)
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20. Since Kerry gave up the race
I had a weird feeling that things weren't right. My pagan gf said me aura was stressed and fluctuating and she felt the same feeling of despair and panic like something bad was going to happen. Felt like a panicked feeling I get from seeing the dentist but more intense. Felt cold and scared.
America is in need for release and if it doesn't arrive soon, people will become violent or at least more aggressive. That memo should relieve stress since it points to the person who caused this mess.
Erika (1000+ posts)
Response to Reply #20
28. My attorney friend is also pagan and can't stand Bush nor Pope Benedict who has shown no tolerance (at least, in the past, for any diversity of religious views). Yes, we've been pushed to the edge by the right wing neocons, and their theocratic friends, in their promoting of giving to the rich and denying diversity in religious beliefs , and denying help to the needy, to the point we are not going to take it anymore. No, zilch, nada.
FreedomAngel82 (1000+ posts)
Response to Reply #20
30. I know what you mean
I'm a very empathetic person and I remember the few days after Kerry conceded things felt very wrong and just not right. I couldn't put my finger on it but I felt very strange. Like I didn't belong where I was and that somehow when I went to sleep I woke up in a strange dimension that looked very similiar to the world I left when I went to sleep. Lately I've been having A LOT of dejavu. More then any other time in the last few years.
FreedomAngel82 (1000+ posts)
Response to Reply #37
44. So true
Also, as I mentioned, me being an empathetic person whenever I saw Kerry whether on a rally on CSPAN or a debate or campaign photo etc. I felt this WONDERFUL positive energy. He has this wonderful green aura about him. I've never felt anything like this before from somebody. It's so wondeful to feel his energy it makes you want to cry (a good cry). I just wish he was really our president now. *sigh*
Maraya1969 (759 posts)
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22. I have a horrible feelings like that in the last several months
But on a good note I truly feel that the right and especially the Christian right are going to implode. They are going to induce their own destruction. Truth will prevail in the end and I believe we have truth on our side.
I do think something really bad is going to happen but in the end it will be for good. This administration is the most corrupt group of evildoers that has ever stolen control of our nation. Eventually all criminals die or get caught.
I think the more we expose the horrible abuse that Bush is allowing to our natural environment the more people will understand what a horrible person he is. People have a hard time understanding how Medicare is going to be affected by Bushes plans but when they hear that Bush is allowing lead to be put back in paint.....well, that will get their attention.
Cats Against Frist (1000+ posts)
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29. I like how you compared the country to madness
I've long thought the policies of the monsters who have entered into the necocon-theocon-corpo-fascist pact are doing nothing more than acting out an id that has gone wrong. A horrible, splitting and projecting, bolo-tie-wearing "id" that has amassed too much money and too much power, and that the policies of this administration and its butt lickers is nothing short of madness. This also includes all the people with their heads in the sand. This also includes us, type type typing away while false binaries are literally robbing everyone of their former centers of reason, and a postmodern monster has come home to fart a stinking miasma of right-wing authoritarianism in the same castle that they complained that the left paid the mortgage on for too long.
At this point, I think that both Orwell and Freud were the ****ing geniuses of all time, and that the sooner that this pot boils over, the better. Of course, then, we have to live through the rule of the third estate again, and I don't want my goddamn head chopped off -- and why is it always the goddamn anarchists that always have to get screwed every single ****ing time? We'll be a hell of a lot better off when we realize that either form of authoritarianism -- left or right -- imposed on to large a group of people is a goddam time bomb.
Minarchy, now. I'm running the organic farm & Gnostic-Buddhist Church of Jesus & Thomas Jefferson. I think we can take over Washington and Oregon.
Erika (1000+ posts)
Response to Reply #29
34. The study of one's belly-button is always fascinating
Keep it up.
lala_rawraw (1000+ posts)
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33. Critical mass, I agree...
Too much to cover at this point and they cannot let go of power, you see, because then EVERYTHING WOULD COME OUT. So there is only one option... finish the take over as quickly as possible.
Bluebear (1000+ posts)
Response to Reply #33
36. I'm frightened.
First time in my life. It's ominous and I feel that things have changed forever. Not a good place to be!
lala_rawraw (1000+ posts)
Response to Reply #36
45. I know sweetie
But I think that humanity will survive. I do not think America will. We have passed even the crossing of the Rubicon and entered into something dark.
It could be because I am sick and I have had to sort of make peace with fear, but I have a feeling we will survive...we in general and you for sure What is there really to be afraid of? What more could they do to us at this point that would make things worse? Don't say "death"... because really, does anyone feel remotely alive anymore?
Bluebear (1000+ posts)
Response to Reply #45
48. I think humanity will survive
As far as America, well since 2000 I have been told that I "don't belong" by the majority so I definitely have less of a worry that we will survive intact (I don't see how we can)...my worries are that the ultra right religious dittoheads will proclaim US as insurgents and then, who knows?
I've known fear, and I don't fear death so much as horror, if that makes sense.
lala_rawraw (1000+ posts)
Response to Reply #48
51. No no, the majority is us...
The 12% (if that) of psychotic Repugbots are puffing up themselves on tv to look bigger (meaning, majority) then they are.
Why do you think all of this work goes into "control" and propaganda measures? It is not for the already brainwashed Dobsonites. It is to try and sway the majority, the real majority.
You belong in America. They belong in prison or an asylum, at Gitmo.
FreedomAngel82 (1000+ posts)
Response to Reply #36
46. I know how you feel
I miss the Clinton years when I felt safe and protected. I'm lucky to be where I am because I have a democratic governor and an independent mayor (who has a lot of democratic ideals) but I know there are a lot of places that aren't so lucky (like Florida and Texas for example). I hate feeling helpless. I've written my represenitives but they're all high-profile republicans that won't do anything for us (Frist, Alexander and Wamp). Sometimes I lay in bed and just wish I could move to Canada where I'm not so paranoid or scared and wondering what will happen next with this administration. But then I remember how much I love this country and what we generally stand for and all my family is here and I can't leave them (especially my grandfather when he's sick). One thing to remember is every evil person comes down sooner or later. Look at Hitler. He was the worst evil of them all but yet he got brought down. I only wonder when it'll be Bush's turn and when we can go back to having some peace and happiness for everybody and get back on track like we were in the Clinton years. We've all had so much pain whether you're directly effected or not (like 9/11 or losing someone in Iraq or sent to Iraq). Hopefully there's someone out there who can save us before it's too late.
Bluebear (1000+ posts)
Response to Reply #46
49. I think we will save ourselves
Something has to give. The partisan divide will not be bridged, the toothpaste is out of the tube. Whether the country splits or what, I can't guess. If it weren't for all you at DU I would be completely distressed thinking I was the only one noticing the madness that is going on! BOOWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
Nothing Without Hope (1000+ posts)
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38. I feel it too, that something terrifying is going to happen. I am
wondering if it is either invasion of Iran (predicted for June by Seymour Hersh, Scott Ritter and now Jerome Corsi - Mr. Swift Boat Liars) or a planted bomb in this country. Corsi has been very busy and is about to get a lot busier spreading lies about how Iran is going to set off a bomb, most likely in NYC. It's all those "sleeper cells," you see - they're all ready to go.
If a bomb goes off, we'll know who did it and why. They'll blame it on Iran, but we'll know.
TheWatcher (582 posts)
Response to Reply #38
64. They really aren't trying too hard to hide their intentions anymore are they. It almost seems as if they are "taunting" the one's they know are informed and know better saying "Why yes, we ARE Nazis. What are YOU going to do about it?"
I have an answer for you, General. I won't post it, but I do have one.
shanti (1000+ posts)
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41. never fear
prozac is here!
but on the real....i'm getting this feeling that something is going to blow in june. i hope i'm wrong !
applegrove (1000+ posts)
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53. If anyone is really hurting out there..get thee to a doctor. The price of
some SSRIs has come way down.. and you could be on something to give you a base level.. if this whole messed up world is really, really making you depressed.
Also grieve. Cry. Go through the stages, or go to a web site and see how many stages of grief you have passed through. Grieving allows us to step back so we are not putting our hearts on the line all the time.
I think you could write a letter to local media or the MSM or politicians. Tell them that this president does nothing to assuage people's fears, and even worse, encourages continued fear in people so they will be wedged according to his political needs and his is showing incredible lack of leadership. And you need something to be hopeful for and that making all of America apathetic & depressed is how Saddam Hussein ruled in Iraq.
lala_rawraw (1000+ posts)
Response to Reply #53
57. This is
Standard psychological warfare. I actually thought about writing to the CDC demanding that they get involved because this was a health risk causing serious problems. Then I thought, eh...they won't get the truth of the joke or the joke of the truth.
In any case... I got "me" to the long awaited for specialist only to be sent away. I am sick of doctors and meds. When I run out this time, I am not going to get more. I am simply done. If my body needs to split, so be it. But I am not going drive myself crazy to save my health and in doing so destroy it faster.
Just say no, lol.
applegrove (1000+ posts)
Response to Reply #57
61. Oh I have had the same thought about the mental health of people
caused by Bush lack of leadership and distinct desire to 'not solve problems' if that works in his favor.
When liars start with the reality games and wedging and scapegoating and attacking and playing with hearts and minds and taking pleasure in hurting the 'other' .. it is very, very hard on all people indeed.
I think Bush should apologize to the country in fact. I hope the CDC and all other health organizations are all over the WH.
And you please.. don't just drop the meds without help and monitoring. Going off those suckers can be really, really harsh. Especially when we are in very tough times when your way of life and all that you hold dear is being attacked.
fob (1000+ posts)
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56. I think the country ALREADY went mad, it seems to me we are at the
point where either people will wake up and snap out of it or will simply succumb to the bush*adone treatment of FEAR!, TERROR!, IT'S NOT MY FAULT!, FEAR!, FEAR!
Quite frankly I'm not sure which way even I am leaning at this time, it's exhausting.
rucky (1000+ posts)
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65. I've got front-row tickets when it happens
let it burn. kali time. good for the soul.
if you release your attachment to stuff, the domestic/corporate facets of the Great Unraveling, will end up for the best after enough people get squeezed. soon enough our botox-ridden culture will experiece a much-needed shift in priorities. we will be jilted into caring - more by necessity than from empathy.
focus on relieving the real suffering from war, hunger, poor healthcare, environment and (soon to be) plenty of homelessness. none of this money and pride and power **** matters in the long run.
misanthrope (594 posts)
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67. I would have agreed...
...a little more than a decade ago. Now, however, I believe that humanity is in a constant state of self-agitation and is firmly on schedule to be its own undoing.
We are an "extinction species," folks. It's as plan as the noses on our faces.
GoBlue (626 posts)
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73. I think foolishness inevitably becomes self-evident
except for those who prefer to make complete fools of themselves. I hope that they are the minority but I have my doubts.
ananda (648 posts) Response to Original message
74. still shopping 'n drugging
As long as most people can shop and drug, nothing much will happen to change things as they are now.
Can you say: comfort zone?
Sue
mopaul (1000+ posts)
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76. meanwhile, Rumsfeld makes millions from anti depressants
no ****, he's big in the pharmaceutical industry, not only does he sooth our anxieties, he causes them too. viscious bastard.
And yet they continue going to their jobs, earning their paychecks, taking home more money because of Bush's tax cuts, and posting insanity on internet forums.
Get a life and stop listening to NPR and reading at DU, you'll be amazed at how much better life becomes.
"the moonbats are preparing to fly" ...hahahaha!
DU is totally tapped.
DU amuses and outrages me at the same time.
If these idiots are our opponents, the fights already over and we won.
"I'm a very empathetic person and I remember the few days after Kerry conceded things felt very wrong and just not right. I couldn't put my finger on it but I felt very strange. Like I didn't belong where I was and that somehow when I went to sleep I woke up in a strange dimension that looked very similiar to the world I left when I went to sleep. Lately I've been having A LOT of dejavu. More then any other time in the last few years."
*shaking my head*
Speechless, I am...
I too am unable to comment. I have at least that much charity in me
Yoda? Is that you?
DU is an amazing place, isn't it? One of their group characteristics is an unrealistically heightened sense of importance. Everything is very dire (lots of exclamation points!!!!!) and consequential. They post many "calls to action" and frequently submit manifestos on how to "frame" the debate. The best ones, of course, came just after the election when their disappointment was so raw. Immaturity reigns.
As brian tracy says, you don't believe what you see, you see what you believe. Sites like DU, and to a lesser degree, Freerepublic, feed on and nurture paranoia.
Mommy and Daddy took care of me. Classic example of arrested development. And what is all that garbage about "all that they have done to us" business? What on earth has the Bush Administration done "to" these idiots? Or, what do they "think" has been done to them?
Everything is a conspiracy to these people.
I think their fevered minds have conjured up things they believe will be done to them. I believe there afe some who honestly believe that there will be a "roundup" of unbelievers. To us, all the Hitler-Bush comparisons are over the top. Some of them, though, actually believe it. Others just whip up hysteria because they think it rallies their political troops.
But, you would think they would have at least one example of something horrid that has been done to alter their lives, like punitive taxes, or a philandering purjurer soiling the office of the president for example.
"It's funny, but the DUers post multiple threads on how conservatism and voting Republican must be mental disorders"
The coco leftists psycho-project their own mental disorders onto others. Free-thinking conservatives do not depend upon "auras" to qualify candidates for whom they will vote. Conservatives are not delusional. In fact, conservative political thinkers are rational, pragmatic and endowed with common sense compared to neurotic "liberals" who are spoilers with cross-eyed, myopic and nihilistic worldviews which makes them perfect "willing fools" fodder for radical leftist movements.
Persisting as an immature and inane narcissistic collective, our histrionic "liberals" have no ability to think logically - they feel "auras" and have "deja vus". Having no capacity for objective analysis, having no comprehensive historical knowledge, they mindlessly parrot political mantras, partylines and (pro-Marxist) revisionist propaganda. "Liberal" politicians suffer perennial teenage angst - an underlying pathology. Witness "liberal" ideation, behaviors, manners and speech - e.g., Howard Dean, Teddy Kennedy, Reid the "loser", et al. What rational and responsbile person would entrust power to these destructive persons?
"coco leftists" should be "coocoo leftist"!
Oh sorry. I had mexican food for dinner last night.
LOL! I never get tired of reading this.
I hate to admit it but I had some of these thoughts, in a minor way, during the 40 years when these people were in control of Congress. They, of course, felt that things were going along just fine then. Moonbats!
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