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Illegal immigrant fights charge (Trespassing in NH)
New Hampshire Union Leader ^ | May 12, 2005 | Dan McLean

Posted on 05/12/2005 7:04:25 AM PDT by whd23

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1 posted on 05/12/2005 7:04:26 AM PDT by whd23
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But I thought illegals wanted to be treated like everyone else...a job, free education, free health care, drivers license but they sure want their "rights" as a Mexican National when it suits them...


2 posted on 05/12/2005 7:06:16 AM PDT by 2banana (My common ground with terrorists - They want to die for Islam, and we want to kill them.)
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I think people don't understand the state of immigration in New Hampshire . . . both illegal and legal. If there is an issue in a small state like New Hampshire, you can imagine the problems in New York and Florida," she said."

Oh, it's not exactly rocket science, Mona.

3 posted on 05/12/2005 7:10:19 AM PDT by martin_fierro (< |:)~)
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Ramirez is living in Waltham, Mass., and worked for a construction company in Jaffrey.

Is anybody going after this company?

4 posted on 05/12/2005 7:10:38 AM PDT by antiRepublicrat
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>>"The immigration laws make the determination on who's here illegally, not the police chief," she said. <<

Ummmmmmmmm... so the POLICE do not know what is legal and what is not now?? I guess it depends of what the meaning of "law" is.

I mean, they write these things down right?? /s

5 posted on 05/12/2005 7:10:59 AM PDT by JesseJane (Close the Borders.)
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To: jackbenimble; SwinneySwitch; HiJinx; KylaStarr; Cindy; StillProud2BeFree; nw_arizona_granny; ...

ping


6 posted on 05/12/2005 7:15:17 AM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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Jorge Mora Ramirez


Police Chief Garrett Chamberlain

7 posted on 05/12/2005 7:16:35 AM PDT by whd23
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"the Vienna Convention was violated when her client was not put in touch with the Mexican Consulate"

Illegal Mexicans are invoking the legal concept of extraterritoriality, that they are not subject to our laws.

The illegals want all the benefits of being here, but not of the responsibilities. Sort of like Shanghai and Hong Kong in the 1920s when foreigners had their own laws and courts so Chinese law did not affect them while in China. Modern China recalls this as foreign oppression.

extraterritoriality, privilege of immunity from local law enforcement enjoyed by certain aliens. Although physically present upon the territory of a foreign nation, those aliens possessing extraterritoriality are considered by customary international law or treaty to be under the legal jurisdiction of their home country. Generally such persons are exempt from both civil and criminal action; they may not be sued or arrested. Their property and residences are inviolable, and they are usually exempt from both personal and property taxes.


8 posted on 05/12/2005 7:19:22 AM PDT by RicocheT
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"The immigration laws make the determination on who's here illegally, not the police chief," she said.

OK, since when does it take a police chief to figure out that you're an illegal when 1.) You can't speak ANY English. 2.) You have several false ID papers. 3.) You're carrying a Mexican driver's license?

Things should be no different than when a US citizen enters a US Military installation. You automatically waive your rights to being notified in advance of being searched, your belongings siezed, and basically your rights as you know them being thrown out. Once an illegal steps over the border without documents allowing them to do so, they should immediately lose any and all Constitutional protections or rights. They should have fewer rights than someone breaking into your home in the middle of the night.


9 posted on 05/12/2005 7:22:58 AM PDT by datura (Fix bayonets. Seal and Deport.)
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To: RicocheT

Oh, like diplomatic immunity.

Yes, I'd like to place an order.
20 million blue helments please.


10 posted on 05/12/2005 7:27:13 AM PDT by JesseJane (Close the Borders.)
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To: datura

You silly!! That would be profiling!/s


11 posted on 05/12/2005 7:27:48 AM PDT by JesseJane (Close the Borders.)
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To: RicocheT
Sort of like Shanghai and Hong Kong in the 1920s when foreigners had their own laws and courts so Chinese law did not affect them while in China. Modern China recalls this as foreign oppression.
Good analogy. The difference here being that the oppressors in this case are supported by an army of domestic traitors, including the ACLU, which believes that the only good law is an foreign law.
12 posted on 05/12/2005 7:42:59 AM PDT by samtheman
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The immigration laws make the determination on who's here illegally, not the police chief," she said

If I remember correctly, according to the immigration laws state he is here illegally. Since he is here illegally, he is in violation of the Massachusetts criminal trespass law. All the sheriff is doing is enforcing state law, not the federal immigration law. Also, the state attorney has already reviewed this specific application of the law, and indicated thew sheriff is applying it correctly.

13 posted on 05/12/2005 7:43:35 AM PDT by azsportsterman
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Since he is here illegally, he is in violation of the Massachusetts criminal trespass law. All the sheriff is doing is enforcing state law, not the federal immigration law.

It's a New Hampshire case, but if Massachusetts has a similar law then let's nail this crimalien on both counts and ship his butt back to his home country.

14 posted on 05/12/2005 7:52:23 AM PDT by whd23
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To: HiJinx; gubamyster
If the ICE and the ATF did an agent swap...

Every illegal alien in America would be arrested, deported or shot in one month.

And we could shoot unregistered full auto machine guns in our backyards anytime, with no hassles from the governement.

(I just want a list of the laws which "really count" and I have to obey, and a list of the laws I can [wink wink] just ignore.)


15 posted on 05/12/2005 8:06:14 AM PDT by Travis McGee (----- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com -----)
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To: samtheman
Good analogy. The difference here being that the oppressors in this case are supported by an army of domestic traitors, including the ACLU, which believes that the only good law is an foreign law.

Quisling: A word Norwegians are not very proud of having given to the world: it derives from Vidkun Quisling (1887-1945), a Norwegian politician who collaborated with the Nazis during World War II. He established his name as a synonym for "traitor", someone who collaborates with the invaders of his country, especially by serving in a puppet government. Quisling was found guilty of high treason in 1945, and was executed by firing squad on the 24th October 1945.

16 posted on 05/12/2005 8:07:28 AM PDT by Travis McGee (----- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com -----)
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Oops, Freudian slip. I grew up in eastern Mass, and was thinking of the area when I posted my comment. What's really bad is I stated Mass more than once, even though I knew this happened in New Hampshire.


17 posted on 05/12/2005 8:14:03 AM PDT by azsportsterman
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Well, the crimalien admits to "residing" in Mass so if Mass has a similar law it would be an open-and-shut case (if any DA in Mass would touch the case).


18 posted on 05/12/2005 8:16:52 AM PDT by whd23
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To: martin_fierro

"Second hand rose" law degree : )


19 posted on 05/12/2005 8:19:01 AM PDT by international american (Tagline now flameproof....purchased from "Conspiracy Guy Custom Taglines"LLC)
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If this fine young wetback was working on the Boston Harbor Tunnel, then he is a wetback in both the literal and figurative sense. He probably had been using Mexican construction techniques while at work and we, therefore, can not expect the tunnel NOT to leak because that would be unfairly applying US thinking to an international person.


20 posted on 05/12/2005 8:28:14 AM PDT by Tacis ( SEAL THE FRIGGEN BORDER!!!)
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