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Iran determined to break nuclear freeze, dismisses UN threat
Yahoo News ^ | 5-11-05 | yahoo

Posted on 05/11/2005 2:45:53 PM PDT by toddlintown

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To: iso

Iran must be quaking with this... UN threat!! omg the UN has issued a threat!


21 posted on 05/11/2005 6:20:01 PM PDT by Cinnamon
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To: iso

no.


22 posted on 05/11/2005 6:28:12 PM PDT by bill1952 ("All that we do is done with an eye towards something else.")
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To: toddlintown

What UN threat would that even be?

Really now. Russia BUILT the damn reactors, and did it for their own reasons.

They aren't about to allow a UNSC resolution to pass, and China clearly will not either.

Period, end of story, so why is the media pushing this trash, unless they WANT to see a nuclear Iran to counter the US?


23 posted on 05/11/2005 6:32:05 PM PDT by bill1952 ("All that we do is done with an eye towards something else.")
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To: bill1952
so why is the media pushing this trash, unless they WANT to see a nuclear Iran

Of course they do ... they want NK & Iran both to have 'em.

24 posted on 05/11/2005 6:36:12 PM PDT by softwarecreator (Facts are to liberals as holy water is to vampires)
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To: toddlintown

Simultaneous strikes on NK and Iran. Enough is enough.
Let's not be half-assed here. Blow these cretins away!


25 posted on 05/11/2005 7:09:46 PM PDT by Spruce
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To: toddlintown

The UN is like a well trained parrot, he squawks and blusters but he can't do anything. Why should thugs with nuclear ambitions be afraid of fat, gutless bureaucrats?


26 posted on 05/11/2005 7:37:21 PM PDT by grizzly84
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To: toddlintown

Someone should email the Iranian mullahs "The Story of Saddam Hussein."


27 posted on 05/11/2005 7:39:13 PM PDT by Pharmboy ("Rebellion to tyrants is obedience to God")
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To: Spruce

We don't have to do it.

All we have to do is tell Isreal to "please... whatever you do... don't bomb these places [GPS coordinate 1, GPS coordinate 2, GPS coordinate 3...) and please don't do it during our satellite maintenance downtime period from GMT 0100 to 0300 on 05/15/05 while we can't monitor such things. Please, don't."

:-)


28 posted on 05/11/2005 8:15:31 PM PDT by Ramius
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To: Ramius

Ack. Isreal s/b Israel. Dangit.


29 posted on 05/11/2005 8:16:12 PM PDT by Ramius
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To: toddlintown
So is there anyone out there who didn't see this coming when they made the first agreement with France, Germany, and the UK? Has their exercise accomplished anything but demonstrate what we already know - that the mullahs want to kill us and are treating us openly as a mortal enemy? That they are fanatics whose core beliefs demand that they strive to kill us, with no method too dishonorable to consider?
30 posted on 05/11/2005 8:38:25 PM PDT by thoughtomator ("One cannot say that a law is right simply because it is a law.")
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To: txkev

The end result of the spread of nuclear capability will be a nuclear strike someplace. MAD works when a limited number of nations understand and care about the holocaust that will be visited upon them if they engage in nuclear war.

When dozens of nations have the capability, then multitudes of conflicting alliances will blur the ability to determine national interest. And a religious belief in martyrdom & paradise could blur the ability to "care" whether one is obliterated or not.


31 posted on 05/11/2005 9:18:49 PM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It!)
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To: sgtbono2002
"For some strange unknown reason Iran seem to be bound and determined to get their stupid asses blown off the face of the earth. Its like they know they are about to be overthrown by their own people and want to immolate themselves before it happens. Those living there better start taking charge or face the fact that this nuclear threat of theirs has about been carried as far as its going."

Libya backed down *before* the 2004 election; Syria backed down *after* that election...Iran's current government, however, doesn't seem to be able to comprehend that Senator Kerry lost his Presidential bid.

I suspect that will prove to be a costly miscalculation on their part.

After the EU gets mad at Iran's ingratitude, one can hardly expect a *softer* handling of Iran's current madness than a global blockade, open support of the anti-Mullah students in Iran, followed by direct military action either in support of the students or designed to bring down the Mullahs de novo.

More severe actions are also rather likely.

Granted, I can't wait to see the EU member states running back to President Bush when all of their talk, talk, talk fails...though I pity the innocent civilians inside Iran right now.

32 posted on 05/11/2005 9:39:28 PM PDT by Southack (Media Bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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To: thoughtomator
"So is there anyone out there who didn't see this coming when they made the first agreement with France, Germany, and the UK? Has their exercise accomplished anything but demonstrate what we already know..."

There are times when the adults in charge have to let the children feel the pain of their mistakes firsthand. Unlike most children, however, France and Germany and Belgium seem to be a bit slow to learn the lessons from such pain.

33 posted on 05/11/2005 9:41:54 PM PDT by Southack (Media Bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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To: Cinnamon

UN = nothing , India and Pakistan take nukes , UN do nothing , so NK ready take nukes , then Iran think NK is great , so they ready take nukes too . Now U.S. can't stop India and Pakistan take nukes , but must stop NK add their nukes .


34 posted on 05/12/2005 3:40:01 AM PDT by iso
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To: txkev

But wait, you forgot the brave, fearless, determined, dedicated, tough, and unbeatable militaries of our french and german "allies" (sarcasm).


35 posted on 05/12/2005 4:34:17 AM PDT by moose2004 (You Can Run But You Can't Hide!)
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To: moose2004

Hey Moose. As I said openly to a few visiting EU type military, the current perception here is largely that the combined boy scout troops of two states could battle the French & German military to a draw.


36 posted on 05/12/2005 5:30:13 AM PDT by bill1952 ("All that we do is done with an eye towards something else.")
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To: RetiredArmy
Dismisses UN threat????????? What threat??? What can the worthless stinking UN do about anything short of asking the USA to do something about it, then bashing us for doing it? UN issuing a threat? Right. Sure. Oh, sure. Right.

The UN is about as threatening as the average house fly. And just as annoying.

37 posted on 05/12/2005 6:57:56 AM PDT by Paul_Denton (Get the U.N. out of the U.S. and U.S. out of the U.N.!)
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To: toddlintown
Time for George Boosh to fire up the American UFOs and take out the nuclear sandpile in Tehran.

Do it, George. I promise not to say a word when there are reports of black triangles invading the Middle East. :)

38 posted on 05/12/2005 6:59:51 AM PDT by Reactionary
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To: sgtbono2002; toddlintown

<< [The mad mullahs of] Iran [Well dug in and every one of them able to instantly desend into a bunker in which to hunker] seem to be bound and determined to get their [Subjects] stupid asses blown off the face of the Earth.

... [The mad mullahs] know they are about to be overthrown by their [Subjects] and want to immolate [Them] ... before it happens.

Those living there better start taking charge or face the fact that this nuclear "threat" of theirs has about been carried as far as its going. >>

Pretty darned well sums up the situation -- and the nature of the "threat!"

One more time: Neither the mad mullahs who for now so grandiosely call themselves "Iran" -- nor either any gang likely in the short mid or long term to so term itself -- will be either "nuclear armed" nor even its maternity hospitals' wards be provided electricity to run their incubators by means of nuclear energy.

And that's a fact!


39 posted on 05/12/2005 7:27:05 AM PDT by Brian Allen (I fly and can therefore be envious of no man -- Per Ardua ad Astra!)
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To: grizzly84

we really don't want the UN to have any real power.

That *would* be dangerous, to us, to our liberty.

Best to keep it as a talking shop, with moral power
only. When people need to be hurt and their stuff broken,
we need to have the ability to act. The UN's proper role
is to emit the proper outrayged noises.


40 posted on 05/12/2005 7:39:12 AM PDT by rahbert
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