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To: ArrogantBustard

Neither communism nor Nazism should get a pass because of the excesses of the other. Both should be remembered and condemned.


120 posted on 05/11/2005 10:44:19 AM PDT by EveningStar
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To: EveningStar
Neither communism nor Nazism should get a pass because of the excesses of the other. Both should be remembered and condemned.

BRILLIANT!!!!!

Thank you!!!

121 posted on 05/11/2005 10:45:53 AM PDT by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilisation is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: EveningStar

Exactly! Thank you, Evening Star.


123 posted on 05/11/2005 10:48:27 AM PDT by ariamne (reformed liberal--Shieldmaiden of the Infidel)
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Exactly. Pat Buchanan doesn't seem to get that, and implies this notion that because Communism still exists, than Nazi Germany should have been allowed to as well. It's just so unfair that Nazism was destroyed in 12 years whereas the USSR lasted 74 years! What better world we would have lived in if Nazi Germany was allowed to continue on its merry way! This is an irrational and immoral view. Just because Communism isn't villified as much as Nazism is in the media, doesn't mean the crimes of Nazism were phantasms and fictions. Talk about a stupid @$$ way to fight the Left--it is the "Let's not demonize Nazism too much!" rationale of people like Pat Buchanan who drive people into the gaping arms of the Left.

You want more Leftists, well then argue that ending Hitler's gas chambers wasn't worth it. If Pat Buchanan was President and he suggested that it there was no pressing need to defeat an ideology bent on exterminating Jews, Poles, Catholics, blacks, and eventually, Anglo Saxons, he would have about 15% approval rating, and by 2008 Moveon.org and the Green Party would be running the country w/ a 100 seat majority in the House and a filibuster proof Senate. It's just mindboggling stupid, culturally tone deaf, not too mention historically innacurate and immoral, to come to the defense of Hitler's Germany in ANY way. Plays right into the REAL Communists hands.

I have a question for those who are defending this view that it wasn't worth it to fight Hitler. Forget the Holocaust, forget the war itself and these rationales you've concieved that it was Churchill's fault that WWII started (I get sick just conceding those "what ifs")...just one question: what's your opinion of the Terri Schiavo case? I assume you think it's a great moral tragedy, right? Well, the extermination of "undesirables" was the PUBLIC POLICY of Nazi Germany, before the whole war mess started. Not a couple of judges off the reservation, and not one victim, but public policy that led to TENS OF THOUSANDS of victims. If the Schiavo case is the fulcrum which American cultural history turned for the worst, and I know many of you Pat supporters believe this, then what the heck was Nazi Germany and its policies of targeted exterminations of thirty thousand Terri Schiavos?

Oh, and 6 million Jews dead and 4-5 million Poles. And the brutal torture of children in atrocious human experiments. And the declaration of war on the U.S. And the declaration of war on the free market and democracy and individual liberty. And the dismantling of Christianity, replacing it w/ "MeinKampf"ianity, w/ baby Jesus replaced in manger scenes w/ baby Hitlers and Bibles on altars replaced w/ Mein Kampf. And the decapitation of Tibetan children in pagan rites of human sacrifice. And Himmler and the S.S.'s outright worship of SATAN.

Clearly, clearly it wasn't worth it. Crimes of Nazism = overrated, how can a good Christian complain about Nazism?!?


154 posted on 05/11/2005 11:15:30 AM PDT by 0siris
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