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No Star Wars for Oil
TechCentralStation.com ^ | 05-11-05 | Craig Winneker

Posted on 05/11/2005 6:39:05 AM PDT by EarthStomper

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To: EarthStomper

The annoying part about all this is that the Bush quote, "Either you are with us or you are with the terrorists" has reasoning behind it that is specific to the War on Terror. And I doubt few people would disagree with that reasoning. A country that has terrorists living there, plotting against the United States or our allies, must do something about it. They can't just sit back and say "we don't have a beef with the United States or Al Quida, we're just minding our own business." The President was smart enough to know that certain countries were going to harbor terrorists giving that reasoning.

Funny how the "enlightened" left can't seem to gather the depth behind that statement.


61 posted on 05/20/2005 1:36:53 PM PDT by Honcho
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To: Future Snake Eater
Actually, I just saw the movie. Jedi are morons.

1. They can't inspire loyalty in their clone troopers enough to avoid assassination.
2. Their "Force Powers" don't let them sense the impending attack.
3. Yoda and Obi-wan are too stupid to FIRST gang up on Palpatine THEN kill Anakin.

Morons. All of 'em. I'm totally outta sympathy with the Republic and the Jedi.
62 posted on 05/20/2005 2:34:43 PM PDT by Little Ray (I'm a reactionary, hirsute, gun-owning, knuckle dragging, Christian Neanderthal and proud of it!)
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To: EarthStomper
"If you're not with me, you're my enemy," Anakin shouts to Obi-Wan, who responds: "Only a Sith lord deals in absolutes." Yes, and so, it would seem, do neo-cons.

After I read this the first time (somewhere else), I realized that Jedi Knights were democrats. Since then I have been rooting for Darth Vader and the Emperor.

63 posted on 05/20/2005 2:41:36 PM PDT by Centurion2000 ("THE REDNECK PROBLEM" ..... we prefer the term, "Agro-Americans")
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To: Little Ray

Darth Vader was a hero of my youth. Especially how he dealt with those asinine generals.


64 posted on 05/20/2005 2:43:24 PM PDT by Clemenza (A candy-colored clown they call the sandman...)
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To: Restorer
If they nuke a US city, then we nuke mecca, medina and the rest of their holy cities.

Nuking Holy City #3 might tick off the Israelis.

Nuking Qom Iran is going piss off the Israelis ?

65 posted on 05/20/2005 2:44:57 PM PDT by Centurion2000 ("THE REDNECK PROBLEM" ..... we prefer the term, "Agro-Americans")
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To: Sloth

Especially since the Jedi themselves dead in absolutes.


66 posted on 05/20/2005 2:45:17 PM PDT by Fledermaus (Rats theme song: "Whatever it is...I'm AGAINST it ! - Groucho Marx")
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To: EarthStomper

If you choose to look at the movie w bush as the promoter of democracy, it also works and you'll enjoy it more


67 posted on 05/20/2005 2:45:36 PM PDT by beebuster2000
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To: RebelBanker
The author of the review does not appear to have the knowledge of history that George Lucas demonstrates.

His generation is a product of a vastly inferior educational system than the one that you and I were exposed to. They just don't teach real history anymore.

Craig Winneker:


68 posted on 05/20/2005 2:53:07 PM PDT by Bloody Sam Roberts (If you only knew the powerrrrr of the Tagline.)
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To: Beemnseven
The same country that we sided with during the Reagan Administration

Was Reagan a good President? This is a yes or no question, unless you're one of those pansies that thinks that "Only a Sith Lord deals in absolutes." Was Reagan a good President? I challenge you to answer yes or no.

69 posted on 05/20/2005 2:53:16 PM PDT by T. Buzzard Trueblood ("There is...a deep anti-military bias in the media." ABC's Terry Moran)
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To: EarthStomper
If there is the chance to do something like this, it would not and does not surprise me that they did it. This is yet another reason I do not go to movies any longer. I used to go to be Entertained! Now, you go for the sex, violence, "F" word used 9,000 times, etc.

I recently completed reading a new book about Major Dick Winters, called Biggest Brother, the story of Major Winters and his personal life and WWII and Band of Brothers fame. During the making of the mini-series, one of the things that Major Winters OBJECTED to was the use of the "F" word so much in the movie. He says in the book, they did not use that word back then like it is used now. Then it was considered the most obscene profane you could use.

So, it just goes to show how movies have become. If they do not show boobs, butt, sex, violence, and use the "F" word 9,000 times per paragraph, then it does not fit.

I like action movies, but I do not go to the movies to see XXX-rated sex scenes in a war movie, or a cowboy movie.

Man where the heck is John Wayne, Jimmy Stewart, Clark Gable, Roy Rogers, and Gene Autry when you need them. (On DVD and video, that is what I watch now!!!!! Oldies!!!)

70 posted on 05/20/2005 2:54:35 PM PDT by RetiredArmy (The Democratic People's Socialist Abortion Party are enemies of the Republic, and mine.)
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To: Paul C. Jesup

Well, not that I want to do spoilers, but you do get to see him in the movie, albeit briefly.


71 posted on 05/20/2005 3:25:49 PM PDT by Ecthelion
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To: Paul C. Jesup

Although, come to think of it, with the rate at which commanding officers have their tracheas crushed under Darth Vader, it's amazing Tarkin lasted 20 or so years under his command.


72 posted on 05/20/2005 3:26:36 PM PDT by Ecthelion
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To: Ecthelion
Although, come to think of it, with the rate at which commanding officers have their tracheas crushed under Darth Vader, it's amazing Tarkin lasted 20 or so years under his command.

Actually by Star Wars Episode 4, Tarkin was a Grand Admiral, the Empirial Naval equivalent of a Apprentice Sith Lord. Vader and Tarkin were basically the same rank in different parts of the Empirial Military. That meeting in Episode 4 in the Death Star with Vader, Tarkin and those officers were basically a meeting of the heads of the Empirial Military.

That's why Vader did not choke that officer to death during the meeting when had the chance and Tarkin had to remind Vader to control his anger.

73 posted on 05/20/2005 4:08:52 PM PDT by Paul C. Jesup
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To: Ecthelion
Well, not that I want to do spoilers, but you do get to see him in the movie, albeit briefly.

That's great to hear. What part of the movie should I look for him to be in?

74 posted on 05/20/2005 4:09:58 PM PDT by Paul C. Jesup
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To: Paul C. Jesup

Pretty much the very end.


75 posted on 05/20/2005 4:34:59 PM PDT by Ecthelion
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To: Ecthelion

Thank you. I probably won't see the movie until a week or too from now, after the crowds have left.


76 posted on 05/20/2005 4:51:04 PM PDT by Paul C. Jesup
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To: Centurion2000

Not particularly. But nuking Jerusalem, normally considered the third most holy Muslim city, surely would.


77 posted on 05/23/2005 4:25:35 AM PDT by Restorer
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To: EarthStomper

Why can't people stop reading anti-Bush polemics into this film? These lines she cites can be interpreted many different ways. Palpatine as Karl Rove? I didn't pay it any mind, and it had zero impact on a fine film.


78 posted on 05/23/2005 5:24:40 AM PDT by montag813
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To: streetpreacher
No one has done so. We went in because, of the nations that support terror, Iraq was the only one that could be taken down with force. Also b/c the Iraqi people are the most civilized in the region, the most fertile ground for an Arab Democracy that would create a SEA CHANGE in the ME. Or do you think Libya and Syria threw in the towel out of boredom?

"Funny, I thought it was sold as the spectre of a mushroom cloud hanging over lower Manhattan"

Funny, but you thought wrong. There were several reasons why we went in, all listed by Bush in his speeches - funny, but you weren't paying attention then either. The media are the one's who made WMD the centerpiece of the liberation of Iraq, not Bush. Funny how easily they influenced you.

"funny how a couple of years (and no WMDs) re-defines a mission."

The absence of evidence is not evidence of absence. Iraq had a WMD program. You're not going to find 100 barrels of Sarin in a warehouse - it just doesn't work that way. Stocks were destroyed or shipped to Syria - as per SOP (see Operation Sarindar). All that remained was enough research material to start-up operations after the West left. And we found that. Oh yeah, we broke up a Lybian nuclear black market along the way.

"Syria hasn't thrown in anything BTW."

More ignorance. Lebaneese protestors, emboldened by what they saw from the Iraqi elections, threw the Syrians out of Lebanon. You could agree thats a good thing, but like most leftists, you don't care about Afgani's, Iraqi's, or the Arab world in general. You would easily damn them all to Saddam's torture chambers and rape rooms if it meant opportunity to make Bush and America look bad.

79 posted on 05/23/2005 8:14:19 AM PDT by Fenris6 (3 Purple Hearts in 4 months w/o missing a day of work? He's either John Rambo or a Fraud)
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To: spetznaz
Yep. He lost me when he said Darth Sidious 'might' be Karl Rove

What do you expect from a man [Lucas] who's life work is the plagerism of other's ideas and concepts?

Back on topic: I'm hearing alot of complaints about acting. The key subplot in this episode was the conversion of Skywalker to Vader - everyone I talk to says the actor was not up to such a challenging role.

80 posted on 05/23/2005 8:24:41 AM PDT by Fenris6 (3 Purple Hearts in 4 months w/o missing a day of work? He's either John Rambo or a Fraud)
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