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Mike Pence touted as Presidential candidate
newsmax ^ | 5-8-05 | Insider Report

Posted on 05/10/2005 3:31:54 PM PDT by Gipper08

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1. Indiana's Rep. Mike Pence Touted as Presidential Candidate

We hear that a fast-rising member of Congress is being touted by some influential conservative leaders as a possible presidential candidate for the 2008 race.

Grassroots leaders, dismayed that no Republican candidate has emerged who strongly advocates the pro-life position, are taking a careful look at Congressman Mike Pence, who represents Indiana's 6th Congressional

Despite being in only his second term in the House, Rep. Pence, 46, is already a member of the House GOP leadership, serving as deputy whip, and in his first term was named to chair a subcommittee, only the fifth freshman representative to achieve that feat in 50 years.

In September 2004, Pence was elected to serve as chairman of the prestigious Republican Study Group.

As an ardent supporter of the U.S. military and President Bush's war on terrorism, Rep. Pence accompanied Indiana Congressman Dan Burton and a small congressional delegation in February of 2004 to visit troops serving in Iraq.

The delegation met with Ambassador Paul Bremer and Lt. Gen. Ricardo Sanchez to receive a briefing on Iraq's transition to democracy, and talked with Iraqi citizens adjusting to life in a free Iraq.

Following the Sept. 11, 2001 terrorist attacks on New York City and Washington, D.C., Rep. Pence was appointed to the House Judiciary Committee, where he serves on the Subcommittee on Crime, Terrorism, and Homeland Security. Pence participated in drafting the Patriot Act and legislation creating the Department of Homeland Security.

Pence, a former talk radio host, and his wife, Karen, have three children and reside in Columbus, Ind. When Congress is in session, the Pence family lives in Arlington, Va.

He describes himself as "a Christian, a conservative and a Republican, in that order


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Extended News; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Indiana
KEYWORDS: 2008; electionpresident; in; indiana; mikepence; pence2008
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To: COEXERJ145

Actually GWB at this moment has a treaty going to the Senate where he has agreed with Mexico that their illegals in our country can jump to the front of the line for Social Security, after only 4 quarters. That is from the mouth of a member of Congress whom I heard speak recently.

It will be knocked out, but sometimes I have to scratch my head and wonder what he's thinking.


21 posted on 05/10/2005 4:04:05 PM PDT by ConservativeDude
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To: wk4bush2004
The problem is the cost to find and deport most illegals would consume so much the federal budget that it is impractical so something else has to be done.

Obviously amnesty is not the solution nor are some of the outrageous suggestions some people make like "mine fields".

I don't think any one idea would solve the problem. Solutions are needed in many areas, not just one or two.

Oh, and something else many people on FR need to realize. The President doesn't set the government's immigration policy, Congress does. The President doesn't decide where the money is to be spent, Congress does. The President cannot "close the border" without the authorization and appropriations from Congress. If people want anything done, they should lobby Congress and that includes telling Tancredo to stop holding up any immigration related bill that he didn't write.

22 posted on 05/10/2005 4:04:15 PM PDT by COEXERJ145 (Just Blame President Bush For Everything, It Is Easier Than Using Your Brain)
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To: wk4bush2004
Why can't Tancredo win?

Because the answer to every single problem in this country is not just immigration.

If he could talk about another topic for more then a few minuits, he'd be viable.

23 posted on 05/10/2005 4:04:29 PM PDT by Sonny M ("oderint dum metuant")
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To: ConservativeDude

They haven't yet,but I am sure they will.Pence and Toomey are best friends,The Club has been in turmoil and they already have endorsed two other candidates for 08(Sanford,Owens) I suspect the Club will take their time in PUBLICLY endorsing Pence.The Christian Right is out in front on the Pence 08 bandwagon,the fiscals are a step behind.Remember what I told you about the Club for Growth and Family Research Council endorsing the same candidate? This united front is the key.


24 posted on 05/10/2005 4:06:15 PM PDT by Gipper08 (MIKE PENCE IN 2008)
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To: COEXERJ145

But we can't just let the illegals run free. A massive deportation effort could work.

But we need more security on the border than just "chicken-wire fences" in some spots. Every inch of that border needs to be constantly watched, no matter what the price.


25 posted on 05/10/2005 4:06:44 PM PDT by wk4bush2004
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To: Gipper08

I would like to hear what his position is on immigration (illegal and legal) as well as what he has said about it in the past.


26 posted on 05/10/2005 4:16:40 PM PDT by Czar (StillFedUptotheTeeth@Washington)
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To: ConservativeDude
Correction (Posted 5/4/05)

    The first correction ever posted in the blog section here at neoperspectives.com. Unfortunately I made an error when writing a post last week 4/28 (below) regarding the Club For Growth's endorsement of Mike Pence. Alert readers have pointed out that the Club had not yet officially endorsed Pence for President. I assumed they had done so based on a few facts:

    1. I received a (mass) email from Pat Toomey, current President of the CFG, lauding Pence for cutting pork and stating something like 'Wouldn't he make a great President?' or 'Wouldn't you like to see him run?' I'm paraphrasing because I've since deleted the email.

    2. Stephan Moore, past CFG president said this in a recent WP story:  

"Mike is charismatic. He's articulate, but he's not shrill or mean the
way some conservatives can be," said Stephen Moore, former president
of the Club for Growth, a conservative political action committee. "I
think a lot of us are looking around and saying, 'Who is the next
great conservative hero? Where is the next Ronald Reagan in our
party?' . . . The Study Committee has close to 100 members now. That's
a high water mark. So it means that all legislation that passes
Congress is going to have go through Mike Pence.
"

    3. The CFG has frequently mentioned Pence in their blogs and in news stories they've posted.

    4. The CFG members donated over 50k to Pence as a candidate in this past election cycle and I'm assuming in past ones as well. 

    5. Moore has this to say about the Medicare drug prescription bill boondoggle that the Club opposed: Two lieutenants quickly emerged to lead the conservative revolt against the bill: Pat Toomey and Mike Pence. Both of them were elected with Club support, of course. <.> Sitting in the Oval Office of the White House, he [Pence] told George Bush: "With all due respect, Mr. President, I didn't come to this town to create new entitlements, but to rein in the ones we already have."

    6. Pence was one of the few Republicans to openly support Pat Toomey, current CFG president, in his near upset win over PA 'Republican' Senator Arlen Spector. The Toomey blog states this: 

"Seems to me to be the easiest thing in the world to come back after a
very difficult race and take the ball and go home," said Rep. Mike
Pence, R-Ind., who backed Toomey his the Primary race. "And he hasn't
done that. He has come back and taken lessons learned and continued to
exercise the leadership that we cherish." "It's going to be part of your legacy here," Pence told Toomey.

    So, all of this, including their pattern of early endorsements, contributed to my misunderstanding that the Club had endorsed Mike Pence. I still believe they are actively supporting Pence's possible candidacy and that an official endorsement is likely forthcoming. Apologies for the error. :) 

27 posted on 05/10/2005 4:17:08 PM PDT by traviskicks (http://www.neoperspectives.com/charterschoolsexplained.htm)
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To: Gipper08

Has served in Congress for how many terms?

When was a sitting House member elected President?

A lot of potential candidates have more complete resumes, than this fellow. Allen, for one.

Not that I'm touting anybody, but Gipper08 looks like a full time Pence campaign manager, here at FR.


28 posted on 05/10/2005 4:20:46 PM PDT by truth_seeker
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To: Gipper08
He describes himself as "a Christian, a conservative and a Republican, in that order

That is good to hear.
And whatever happens let's not turn this into a Pence vs. Allen slugfest. Either would make an excellent candidate for our side.

29 posted on 05/10/2005 4:28:18 PM PDT by jla
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To: Gipper08

Maybe I'm confusing him with another Indiana GOP congressman, but didn't Mike Pence run for Congress in the late 1980s or early 1990s, lose, and later write a book called "Confessions of a Negative Campaigner"? And wasn't his talk show fairly controversial? We need to make sure that we nominate someone who not only is conservative but who also has avoided making outrageous statements (I'm not saying that Pence made outrageous statements on the air, but I know that if *I* had a daily talk show for a few years I'd say a bunch of stuff that could be political poison in a presidential race.


30 posted on 05/10/2005 4:56:09 PM PDT by AuH2ORepublican (Extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice, moderation in the pursuit of justice is no virtue.)
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To: AuH2ORepublican
had a daily talk show for a few years I'd say a bunch of stuff that could be political poison in a presidential race.

I wonder if that's why the founders--Sam Adams in particular--wrote behind pen names.
31 posted on 05/10/2005 5:02:19 PM PDT by farmer18th ("The fool says in his heart there is no God.")
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To: farmer18th
"I wonder if that's why the founders--Sam Adams in particular--wrote behind pen names." ------------------- And maybe why some FReepers use pseudonyms. : ) Actually, the reason why so many Founding Fathers used nomes de plume was to avoid getting hanged for treason by the Brits. And after independence, Madison, Hamilton and Jay wrote The Federalist under the name "Publius" so that the essays were judged for their arguments, not their authors. I don't think any of the Founding Fathers was afraid of his true views being heard by the electorate.
32 posted on 05/10/2005 5:09:02 PM PDT by AuH2ORepublican (Extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice, moderation in the pursuit of justice is no virtue.)
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To: AuH2ORepublican
avoid getting hanged for treason by the Brits.

The practice was more common than that, though. In England, ongoing dialectics were carried on by anonymous authors. "Junius," I think, comes to mind. At any rate, I'm not so certain it's all that becoming to be the most rhetorically controlled candidate. A little shouting is a good thing, particularly among Republicans who have now gone so hog-wild spending mad, it's difficult to tell them from LBJ Democrats.
33 posted on 05/10/2005 5:18:32 PM PDT by farmer18th ("The fool says in his heart there is no God.")
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To: truth_seeker
Pence has the most complete resume of any potential candidate in fighting against Socialism and for conservatism.Other candidates could learn a lot from him.There really isnt anything he could learn from the other candidates.
34 posted on 05/10/2005 5:23:18 PM PDT by Gipper08 (MIKE PENCE IN 2008)
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To: Gipper08

I'd love to see Pence vs. Evan Bayh in the presidential race in 2008.
Hoosier vs. Hoosier!


35 posted on 05/10/2005 5:23:43 PM PDT by JRochelle
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To: AuH2ORepublican
In a former life, Rep. Mike Pence (R-Ind.) liked to describe himself as Rush Limbaugh on decaf.

The phrase was verbal shorthand that the future congressman developed to explain his regional Indiana radio talk show, in which he delivered conservative political opinions with the even tones and polite demeanor of his Midwest upbringing.




"I occasionally got called the Rush Limbaugh of Indiana, but most people knew that my style was different," Pence said in an interview at his Capitol Hill office. "I'd tell people, 'I'm a Christian, a conservative and a Republican, in that order.' And my Christianity, first and foremost, governed the way that I tried to deal with people."


http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A54940-2005Mar21.html?referrer=emailarticle

Yes,he wrote Confessions of a Negative Campaigner.He humbled himself and apologized and hasn't gone negative since.This will be a plus.
36 posted on 05/10/2005 5:28:19 PM PDT by Gipper08 (MIKE PENCE IN 2008)
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To: Czar

He is the main reason President Bush's guest worker program is DOA.He will not let it pass the house.He went on the nightly News with Brokaw and said "We must have and immigration bill that first and foremost respects the rule of law" No Amnesty!


37 posted on 05/10/2005 5:30:31 PM PDT by Gipper08 (MIKE PENCE IN 2008)
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To: wk4bush2004

"Tom Tancredo should run."

I used to like Tancredo more than I do now before he said that Tom DeLay should temporarily step aside just because DeLay was ACCUSED of wrongdoing.

Liberal Dem politicians are always ACCUSING. It doesn't mean much.

If the Dems stick by each other, and the Republicans don't, the Dems will triumph.


38 posted on 05/10/2005 5:31:51 PM PDT by Sun ("We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good," Killary Clinton, pro-abort)
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To: Gipper08

Has Mr. Pence taken some of his time and served in the U.S. Military? Thats my first question - a no on that question means "Who's next on the list?".


39 posted on 05/10/2005 5:32:54 PM PDT by TomasUSMC
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To: jla

I will try and not go negative, but it is hard.Going negative is the main reason why we have told other Pence supporters to stay away from FR for now.That just say many of them are overly "dedicated" and might lack the respect for certain other candidates to maintain civility.


40 posted on 05/10/2005 5:34:59 PM PDT by Gipper08 (MIKE PENCE IN 2008)
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