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To: jneesy
Just cut off federal money to states that opt out. No reason the taxpayers have to pay for their niggardly attitude towards our national security.

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5 posted on 05/10/2005 8:15:40 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: goldstategop
Just cut off federal money to states that opt out. No reason the taxpayers have to pay for their niggardly attitude towards our national security.

Agree with both parts of your suggestion but suggest it still doesn't go far enough for the intent of making this country more secure. Perhaps for any state that 'opts out' we would also require a passport to travel to and from. Which would also mean some checking at the borders for people not flying. AND all expense for doing so must also be bourne by that state.

13 posted on 05/10/2005 8:20:06 AM PDT by AgThorn (Bush is my president, but he needs to protect our borders. FIRST, before any talk of "Amnesty.")
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To: goldstategop
Sure, just let the Feds introduce one unfunded mandate after another and let the states and state tax payers pick up the tab.
21 posted on 05/10/2005 8:23:37 AM PDT by jsbankston
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To: goldstategop
"No reason the taxpayers have to pay for their niggardly attitude towards our national security."

But do to fellow citizens support of Congressional stupidity "towards our national security," there were 3000 fellow citizens killed and billions of dollars of fellow citizens private property destroyed by the terrorist attack on 9/11.

You ask, "what stupidity are you referring to?"

The "stupidity" of disarming fellow citizens and private property owners unconstitutionally, gave the terrorists the strategic advantage of a successful hijacking of an aircraft.

The terrorist's would never had considered hijacking aircrafts if they had known that there may be 10, 50, 100 armed citizens on-board U.S. aircrafts, prepared to secure and defend those aircrafts from hijackers.

So, the bottom line is citizens are dead, citizen's property has been destroyed, and enumerated rights have been violated ("rights" that many generations of fellow citizens have died for to protect) because of Congressional "stupidity," supported by "stupid" citizens, not by the "niggardly attitude towards our national security" by taxpayers.

71 posted on 05/10/2005 9:57:33 AM PDT by tahiti
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To: goldstategop

You really want a de facto National ID card?


78 posted on 05/10/2005 10:07:03 AM PDT by sauropod (De gustibus non est disputandum)
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To: goldstategop
Just cut off federal money to states that opt out. No reason the taxpayers have to pay for their niggardly attitude towards our national security.

Sure, as soon as all workers in that state can skip federal income taxation. Or maybe the state should just redirect witholding to them.

96 posted on 05/10/2005 10:54:07 AM PDT by Centurion2000 (The human race divides politically into those who want people to be controlled and those who have no)
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To: goldstategop

National security? Do you really think that this would have stopped 911? Can the states stop sending money to the feds since the border is till wide open over 3 years after 911?

This war on terror is a phony war and the wide open border proves that beyond any doubt. But let's not let that keep us from passing more laws that interfere with state's rights. Why not standardize marriage licenses, vehicle registration, public education, library cards..no wait. It would be more efficient to stop playing games and just eliminate the states.


121 posted on 05/10/2005 3:26:06 PM PDT by usa1776
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