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The 911 skyjackers had 60-something state driver's licenses - not just from NJ

Some had over 5 different state driver's licenses each

Let's not pretend that NJ is a shining example of honest politicians and bureaucrats

NJ, NY, CT, MD and other states have had DMV employees and supervisors selling driver's licenses for many years - documented and caught often on TV

Documents and IDs of foreigners need to be checked and verified before any state driver's license can be issued

I requested alternatives - you have offered none at all - zero

To play this game you need to open with a logical, workable, bullet-proof alternative

Let's just do away with all ID's and documents of any and all kinds

That seems to be the agenda of quite a few on FR

Anarchists and so-called "Libertarians" often post that they should not be required to have any driver's license at all

Master Charge and VISA can check and shred your credit card in mere seconds

All former and current military have fingerprints and photos still on file with the FBI

Are civilians so special that they can sit back and oppose IDs and documentation yet gripe endlessly when illegal aliens flood across our borders?

There are two separate issues intertwined here. One is the need for ID for security purposes, the other is the limits of Federal power over the States.

The Federal government has the authority to forbid States from issuing a DL to an illegal alien or even a legal alien. They have this power because they can regulate immigration and naturalization and can set the conditions for non-citizens who come to our country. They can pass laws mandating that ID given to a non-citizens be clearly identifiable. They have a number of options when it comes to non-citizens and ID that do not amount to mandating a uniform document for citizens that are well within the authority of the Federal government.

One of the posts here mentioned Texas mandating fingerprinting for their licenses. I believe California does the same. Personally with all of the people already fingerprinted I've given up on that battle. But this is a perfect example of a privacy issue that States would lose the right to decide for themselves with a Federally mandated standard.

The Federal government could secure the borders, they could immediately deport every illegal alien, they could eliminate judicial review for illegals and simply deport them except for asylum claims, they could limit the native countries for which asylum claims would be heard, they could forbid any federal dollars from going to illegal aliens, they could cut federal aid dollar for dollar to States that use tax money to pay for public services to illegals, they could mandate that only citizens are issued social security numbers and put whatever security measures on those numbers they pleased, and this is just to start.

The Federal government needs to exercise its constitutional authorities to address border security. If they want a national ID, lets debate a national ID. But don't try and create a de facto national ID without a public discussion using extra-constitutional authority under the guise of security when those very security issues only exist because the federal government is intentionally and willfully negligent.

Master Charge and VISA can check and shred your credit card in mere seconds
All former and current military have fingerprints and photos still on file with the FBI

Are civilians so special that they can sit back and oppose IDs and documentation yet gripe endlessly when illegal aliens flood across our borders?

Yeah, go die for me if you LIKE to live in your cage. I have no reason to fight to secure my chains. Burn the prison, don't defend it.