Posted on 05/10/2005 8:11:51 AM PDT by auzerais
States May Disobey Driver's License Rules
By SUZANNE GAMBOA Associated Press Writer May 10, 2005, 8:19 AM EDT
WASHINGTON -- States are threatening to challenge in court and even disobey new orders from Congress to start issuing more uniform driver's licenses and verify the citizenship or legal status of people getting them.
There is concern among some states that they'll get stuck with a large tab to pay for implementing the new rules and that getting a driver's license will become a bigger headache for law-abiding residents.
"Governors are looking at all their options. If more than half of the governors agree we're not going
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And what constitutionally, enumerated Congressional power would you like to cite as justification for such a prohibition.?
Answer:
While the New World Order requires that world chaos be secured, the few countries who take seriously sovereign borders are actually regarded as much a threat (see United States of America).
In short, the President and a disturbingly high number of U.S. legislators (in BOTH parties) have pledged allegiance NOT to "the Republic for which it stands," but to the visionaries of the CFR, the Bilderburgers and the Trilateral Commission (who some claim are mere excuses for cocktail parties amongst the high and mighty).
Btw, need another photo-op of the Bushes palling around with Vicente Fox or Bubba Clinton as the Mexican Invasion continues unabated? :-D
Some on this thread would applaud internal passports as a "good thing."
God help us.
We DO NOT need a national ID card.
Get a clue.
Amen to that!
It's EXACTLY why this national ID really ticks me off.
The Feds are pushing THIER job off onto the states, and forcing the states to foot the bill besides!
Thanks...
"people willing to trade their freedom for temporary security deserve neither and will lose both"
Ben Franklin
No thanks.
If the Feds pay for the massive restructuring, equipment required, etc...then I don't see a big problem. But if they change the rules, and don't invest a penny into state license departments...this is more of a joke.
On another subject. You really appreciate the Falcon and its capabilities or are/were you a Falcon Jock?
I'll fully support any state that stands against RealID. Anyone who supports this bill hasn't read it thoroughly, and does not understand the HUGE FALLACIES BEING REPORTED IN THE MEDIA. Stricter requirements for identification does NOT increase security!
People all over are eating this bill up, well it doesn't do jack shit, and will fully commoditize the info contained in the new ID's. For no other purpose then to increase certain lobbying groups ability to target demographics in advertising.
I note many do not want ID that is reliable and accurate.
Yet those same that are offended by these IDs insist that illegal aliens can be prevented from entering our borders.
Without requiring reliable and accurate IDs?
Brilliant.
Who says those in America that claim they are citizens are actually legal USA citizens?
Without reliable and accurate IDs and documentation how can the feds tell?
The 911 skyjackers had state drivers licenses that should have never been issued or valid.
The feds did not issues those state drivers licenses.
I hear and see a lot of complaints - but no sane logical alternatives.
Just "they should have been kept out of America".
Without having reliable and accurate IDs and documentation how can you tell your Caucasian or Black or Hispanic appearing neighbor is really a legal American citizen and not a terrorist or criminal from Russia, Somalia, Columbia, or *Saudi Arabia (*who speaks Spanish and learned the tricks in Mexico)?
This type of mindless thinking caused 911.......
And what constitutionally, enumerated Congressional power would you like to cite as justification for such a prohibition.?
The Congress shall have Power ... To regulate Commerce with foreign Nations, and among the several States, and with the Indian Tribes; ... To make all Laws which shall be necessary and proper for carrying into Execution the foregoing Powers, and all other Powers vested by this Constitution in the Government of the United States, or in any Department or Officer thereof.
I agree that the Interstate Commerce Clause has been severely abused by Congress but that does not mean that there is nothing that should fall within the purview of that clause.
Commercial aviation clearly IS interstate commerce and almost all commercial airports have been built with large infusions of federal tax dollars and very few commercial airline flights end in the same state they depart from and many originate and/or end internationally which further strengthens the case. If the founding fathers did not mean for the federal government to regulate this type of commerce, why did they ever put that clause in the Constitution?
There is nothing in the Constitution that says the Federal Government has to accept drivers licenses issued by states as ID for any purpose.
What the hell are you talking about. The 911 terrorists in NJ who acquired Driver's licenses, had falsified documents.
Creating this law does nothing to stop someone from creating a fake birth certificate using someone's name of a stole SS number, then creating a new identity using their photo on the new RealID license. It can easily enough be done, with or without this new law.
Sure, as soon as all workers in that state can skip federal income taxation. Or maybe the state should just redirect witholding to them.
There is no such thing as reciprocity anymore. It's gone with other parts of the Constitution. My Texas Concealed Handgun License is not honored by all other states. And the CHL is a "public act" just the same as the issuance of a driver's license or a marriage license. (States are also ignoring marriage licenses they don't like.)
Protect our borders and coastlines from all foreign invaders!
Be Ever Vigilant!
Minutemen Patriots ~ Bump!
There is in many areas such as marriage and driving.
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