Posted on 05/10/2005 1:51:41 AM PDT by Stoat
How is refusing to sign an incriminating instrument under duress and threat of imprisonment a political statement
Rather its sound excersizing of a Constitutional right and is therefore apolitical.
so are you justifying the tazing ?
Is that a rhetorical question? If not, my answer is no.
Didn't they tell her to get out of the car and she refused? After letting her hear the tazer and then again telling her to get out of the car she wouldn't let go of the steering wheel?
She knew what was coming and SHE put her..."Unborn Fetus", as she calls it, in danger.
Most mothers, at least those, who are pregnant, call their baby a baby and not a fetus, would get out of the car.
Yep. God forbid you don't prostrate or supplicate yourself in front of a cop the moment he or she demands it, right, citizen? Because cops are rarely, if ever, incorrect. After all, they're the ones with the badges and the guns.
32 mph in a 20 mph school zone is enough to kill children if she hit them. You rationalize it any way that suits you. She was speeding in a school zone.
How warped we have become.. a mother who has already had her child.. still uses the term FETUS to describe her child pre birth after the fact... and you think liberal indoctrination isn't having an effect.
I already answered your last question. Did they or did they not ask her to get out of the car?
It's tough to make a case that 32 MPH is "speeding" in any circumstance, and up here in MA, School Zones are simply speed traps, i.e., revenue enhancers for the local PD.
I'm not.. anything that causes muscular reaction and convulsion intrinsically has the capacity to induce labor, at any point of a pregnancy in some cases.
Its not tough at all 32MPH in a 20MPH is speeding... its not a difficult case to make at all... its over 1.5 times the legal limit.
You may think they are nothing but speed traps, but around schools here the limit is 15MPH, and honestly it should be. Kids all over the place, no reason drivers should not be driving very slowly and cautiously for the block or two around a school.
"I hope you don't have children with that attitude. I do. If someone was speeding and ran over my daughter..."
I obey speed limits, but 20 mph school zones with not a person in sight, let alone a child, make me think the morons who set school zone speed limits are more interested in collecting traffic fines then the safety of children. They use the sickening mantra of "It's for the children." to justify their little power grab.
Pathetic.
for what purpose other than hassle factor was she asked to exit the vehicle?
After letting her hear the tazer
Psychological intimidation by servants of the court, who full well were aware of her pregnant condition
and then again telling her to get out of the car
again, why ? - the ticket was already dispensed and the cause for stop was complete
she wouldn't let go of the steering wheel?
why should she - IMO - she was being intimidated and coerced into signing an incriminating instrument.
whats say we agree to disagree ?
"I obey speed limits, but 20 mph school zones with not a person in sight, let alone a child, make me think the morons who set school zone speed limits are more interested in collecting traffic fines then the safety of children. They use the sickening mantra of "It's for the children." to justify their little power grab."
She was dropping her own child off at school, so it's pretty likely there were other kids around.
mostly unbelted in school buses - who still dont have belts due to lobbyists
Their concern is an illusion - and the speed limit is a means of mitigating the legal threat of that lack of safety belts, while generating revenue IMO
No, but going 32 in a 20 mph school zone, might endanger the already born fetus' of other parents.
I missed that one. I said Monday thru Friday. They told me that children play in the school yard playground, even on the weekend. I have never forgotten that.
No speeding in school zones...ever.
Hey, ding dong. Hitting a kid with a car at 15 mph will kill them too!
would the police be justified in tazing him/her - disabling the pacemaker, causing a heart attack.....all because he/she refused to sign an incriminating instrument of the court by driving 32 miles an hour
Now - ask yourself if someone galloping on a horse would have been stopped...........probably not - but why ?
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