Posted on 05/10/2005 1:51:41 AM PDT by Stoat
Yep gettin so a troop can't pull out a chicago phonebook with somebody yelling ow !
You cant give the cops the power to enforce the laws then complain when they do as their supervisors and training teach them to do. (Of course over zealous enforcement is an exception.)
If anyone on or off this thread is pulled over and starts giving the officer a hard time, it will escelate the situation until you either back off and play nice or the police persuade you to play nice. You will either leave with the ticket and be on your merry way, or end up hog tied on your way to the pokey or to the ICU with taser burns, bruises, very sore pressure points, a dislocated limb etc.....ITS ALL UP TO YOU. The further you escalate the situation, the worse it will be. (Please see post #26 of this thread.)
Im not a cop lover or a cop hater but looking at this situation with as much reality as possible. Im not in favor of handing out a free taser treatment with every pregnancy test but if you meet the criteria of the physical force that will be applied to you if you resist arrest, then thats what you get.
What if..............she was a convicted felon, or had just robbed a bank, or any other situation that would put her and her "unborn fetus" in danger of an altercation with the police? Are the police not suposed to attempt any arrest because the perp is "with fetus"? Depending on the situation, speeding in a school zone can result in felony reckless driving, child endangerment, or even vehicular homicide.
By the way, the fashion in which SHE BROKE THE LAW increased her stopping distance from around 60 feet to over 110 feet. Thats more than enough to skid through an intersection after you should have already been stopped if you were doing the speed limit.
Sorry. No mercy for her.
MPH | Ft./Sec. | Braking Deceleration Distance |
Perception Reaction Distance |
Total Stopping Distance |
10 | 14.7 | 5 | 22 | 27 |
15 | 22 | 11 | 33 | 44 |
20 | 29.3 | 19 | 44 | 63 |
25 | 36 | 30 | 55 | 85 |
30 | 44 | 43 | 66 | 109 |
35 | 51.3 | 59 | 77 | 136 |
40 | 58.7 | 76 | 88 | 164 |
45 | 66 | 97 | 99 | 196 |
50 | 73.3 | 119 | 110 | 229 |
.....and in a few years it will likely be a directed sonic or light emitting device that will make you so physically nausious within just a few seconds, your will to fight or ability to resist will be long forgotten as you writh on the ground in agony.
I don't remember if it was you or Eak that mentioned how some don't fathom facts getting in the way of the way they percieve things ought to be. Well, that particular mulling has a home here on this thread. Other than that nobody has any business messing around with phonebooks 8>)
411...411...ow ow !!
BTW ......How Ern doing ?
Not sure on Ern. I should call him. He must be close to hitting the streets
I doubt, after hearing ALL of the facts of this case, that a jury would award her so much as a single dollar.
Cool.......he'll do well !
NO logic in your brain ther pal.
Yes, enforce the law. Taser an 8 month pregger female?
I think not. Sounds like the kgb kind of thought.
There is every indication. Tasering a pregnant woman is the height of stupidity. Facts are facts.
That was me as a rookie. LOL
Actually, I was a Feebie--Office of Special Investigations (some 30 years ago) for about 3 years and saw my share (worked with) a lot of good LE types--and quite few, complete, idiots, at the local, county state and fed level.
Wow! Were you an agent with the Federal Bureau of Hysteria?
I guess (for some people who don't see how an "extreme" reply, is in itself, meant to be sarcastic) I will henceforth, apply the /sarc. Hows that?
The point I was trying to make to the Freeper who "claimed" that is was nearly "impossible" to remove someone's "Grip" from a steering wheel, is that with 2 (TWO) MALE Policemen, that "they" could NOT have pried this woman's hands off from the steering wheel?
Give me a break!!!!
Good Post-
Couple that with the lower survival rates for pedestrian/vehicle collisions at higher speeds and you have a Captain Obvious reason why school zones are regulated as they are.
But like Squantos says a few posts down, some others on this thread don't let facts get in the way of a good rant
Correction-shotokan
Id wager a paycheck that there are at least 2 - 35 mph school zones within 15 miles of your home
Theyre all 25 to 35 around here - and they all use crossing guards
......and ticket cams ?
actually, no. Ive never been arrested and have been pulled over exactly three times in 42 yrs. (52 in a 45, disobeying a traffic control device, and no seat belt / dismissed)
Ive never smoked pot, or done drugs. Had my share of liquor. But thats all behind me.
What I have no tolerance for is abusive behavior by government over it's citizens.
Tazing a pregnant woman (regardless of how far she has carried) for a traffic infraction (even so minor) is over an above what could be considered "normal" or "acceptable" protocol. Couple that with the psychlogically abusive method of letting her actually hear the tazer beforehand, and the situation is only compounded
Now, Given this was 32 in a 20 zone, I would not be so forgiving if it was 47 in a 35, as momentum and physics are exponentially different at those speeds.
"If she presents to the officer what he percieves is a deadly threat, then yes, she will be shot."
Calm down and stop being so melodramatic. A pregnant lady, without a weapon, cannot possibly present a lethal threat or any physical threat. Cops have just simply become the biggest sissies on the planet. So much as backtalking a cop is now deemed a "threat". Not falling face first to the dirt with hands high in the air when they approach is now deemed a threat.
To me, cops are a threat. When confronted by one, it is reasonable these days to assume one's life is in danger.
That is in my opinion unacceptable and an inappropriate mentality as law enforcement is largely fair, reasoned and doing the best they can.
I will however still argue the point that an aspect of law enforcement is a revenue generating tool and means of control over the sheeple
"By the way, the fashion in which SHE BROKE THE LAW "
So, you are advocating tasering anyone who speeds? I KNOW you have sped, so where are your taser marks?
The maximum speed limit within the city limits of my community is 30 mph. All three school zones are 20 mph.
I prefer cash but if you work for a reputable business you can just sign the check over to me.
Thanks.
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