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Police used Taser on pregnant driver (Seattle)
The Seattle P.I. ^ | May 10, 2005 | HECTOR CASTRO

Posted on 05/10/2005 1:51:41 AM PDT by Stoat

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To: Revelation 911

"one more thought before I abandon the thread - what if the driver was elderly, had an implanted pacemaker, and physcially could not exit the vehicle or communicate that refusal effectively?"

Then maybe the old geezer was in no physical condition to be driving the vehicle, and should have been taken into custody posthaste.


201 posted on 05/10/2005 11:21:14 AM PDT by BeHoldAPaleHorse
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To: pbrown
A speeding ticket is not the end of civilization as we know it.

a facet of law abiding Americans said the same thing when the Assault Weapons Ban made a whole buch of law abiding Americans criminals

"Its just AR-15's - who needs 'em" - Then it was Saturday night specials, them high capacity ammo magazines / clips

My point is its incremental - where exactly is YOUR line ?

202 posted on 05/10/2005 11:23:06 AM PDT by Revelation 911
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To: Revelation 911

No, I would be content with the knowledge that Officer Rookie did not get a chance to work out on my head and write some more charges. I would be happy to appear in court to contest or to pay the ticket if I thought I was guilty of the offense.

This really has nothing to do with big brother but everything to do with local enforcement of local laws by local officers.


203 posted on 05/10/2005 11:24:41 AM PDT by Old Mountain man (Extremism in defense of liberty is no vice!)
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To: takenoprisoner
Go away flamer. You have nothing to add but nazi slogans.
204 posted on 05/10/2005 11:25:19 AM PDT by processing please hold (Islam and Christianity do not mix ----9-11 taught us that)
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To: BeHoldAPaleHorse
Then maybe the old geezer was in no physical condition to be driving the vehicle, and should have been taken into custody posthaste.

perhaps - but what about the 99 other oldsters in the same boat who get zapped like a whopper with cheese and go toes up, quickly assuming room temp ?

stop being so obstinate

205 posted on 05/10/2005 11:25:49 AM PDT by Revelation 911
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To: BeHoldAPaleHorse

Have you ever refused to sign a speeding ticket?


206 posted on 05/10/2005 11:27:03 AM PDT by processing please hold (Islam and Christianity do not mix ----9-11 taught us that)
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To: Revelation 911

How long would it have taken the officer to say "look lady my supervisor says I have to arrest you if you don't sign this ticket"? about 2 seconds, he would have made it seem as if the decision was out of his hands and she probably would have signed it. (maybe not) but she was not going to run anywhere. When I was eight months pregnant I couldn't run. And my hormones were out of wack too. Can anyone say "sensitivity training"? That officer must be a real piece of work at home with the wife and kids.


207 posted on 05/10/2005 11:27:38 AM PDT by brwnsuga (Proud, Black, Conservative!)
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To: Revelation 911

She was going 32 in a school zone, McFly. Apparently her unborn fetus was more important than a thirty eight-year-olds.


208 posted on 05/10/2005 11:28:15 AM PDT by Flightdeck
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To: Revelation 911

"perhaps - but what about the 99 other oldsters in the same boat who get zapped like a whopper with cheese and go toes up, quickly assuming room temp ?"

Occupational hazard of getting into a pissing contest with a cop while mentally and physically incapacitated.

Stupidity isn't a crime. But the sentence for stupidity is often capital. In that event, it is usually served without appeal.


209 posted on 05/10/2005 11:29:30 AM PDT by BeHoldAPaleHorse
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To: brwnsuga

"How long would it have taken the officer to say "look lady my supervisor says I have to arrest you if you don't sign this ticket"?"

He probably did say exactly that, but this woman had an advanced case of BWOCS and couldn't hear him.


210 posted on 05/10/2005 11:31:11 AM PDT by BeHoldAPaleHorse
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To: Old Mountain man
I would be content with the knowledge that Officer Rookie did not get a chance to work out on my head and write some more charges.

listen to what youre saying - "i would be content that the poorly trained green officer wasnt provided an opportunity by a subservient serf to arbitrarily bash my coconut in and write me up (read harass) me because I disobeyed an instruction I considered unsound in light of the original cause for the stop"

211 posted on 05/10/2005 11:31:41 AM PDT by Revelation 911
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To: pbrown

"You have nothing to add but nazi slogans."

some folks just remind me of nazis. The bonehead officers in this case, and your comments supporting them both remind me of nazis.

so sig heil comrad! carry on!


212 posted on 05/10/2005 11:31:53 AM PDT by takenoprisoner (illegally posting on an expired tag)
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To: pbrown

"Have you ever refused to sign a speeding ticket?"

No. I understood that the signature was necessary to be released from arrest.


213 posted on 05/10/2005 11:32:18 AM PDT by BeHoldAPaleHorse
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To: Flightdeck

The speed limit is 25mph at my son's school and the main road is very far from the place where the kids load and unload from the bus, so its all relative. I would like to see where she was when she was speeding in relation to the school.


214 posted on 05/10/2005 11:32:34 AM PDT by brwnsuga (Proud, Black, Conservative!)
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To: Revelation 911
Focus, focus. The subject is tazering a woman who was speeding in a school zone, not assault weapons.

Look for me on a weapons thread. You'll know where I stand. Second amendment is the heart of them all.

215 posted on 05/10/2005 11:32:40 AM PDT by processing please hold (Islam and Christianity do not mix ----9-11 taught us that)
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To: pbrown
traffic engineering safety principles.

You have the gift of gab, you must be a lawyer. I've never seen the safety of children put to such cold double-talk.


You seem to be edging away from the issues. And you are talking to someone with an engineering degree who knows far more about the MUTCD (look it up) than most traffic cops.

If you want to actually learn something about traffic safety, and how our laws are doing such a poor job, visit www.motorists.org.
216 posted on 05/10/2005 11:32:57 AM PDT by Atlas Sneezed (Your FRiendly FReeper Patent Attorney)
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To: Old Mountain man

"School zone limits are a joke, unless there are children out on the street." Okay, there is your quote.



I stand by the quote. Please offer your analysis of why people should go 20 when no children are present.


217 posted on 05/10/2005 11:34:07 AM PDT by Atlas Sneezed (Your FRiendly FReeper Patent Attorney)
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To: takenoprisoner

See...you did it again. Aloha.


218 posted on 05/10/2005 11:34:30 AM PDT by processing please hold (Islam and Christianity do not mix ----9-11 taught us that)
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To: BeHoldAPaleHorse
Occupational hazard of getting into a pissing contest with a cop while mentally and physically incapacitated.

Stupidity isn't a crime. But the sentence for stupidity is often capital. In that event, it is usually served without appeal.

Occ hazard - wow

Its all the sheeples fault - cops are always right (sarcasm) even when zapping someone carrying another life inside of her

219 posted on 05/10/2005 11:34:46 AM PDT by Revelation 911
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To: brwnsuga

Well the article said it was a school zone, so that is the flashing light zone a block or so in either direction of the school. And apparently it was a time when many children would be outside if she was rushing to get her son there on time.


220 posted on 05/10/2005 11:35:11 AM PDT by Flightdeck
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