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Senate defies White House on highway bill
Monterey Herald ^ | 5/9/05 | Jim Abrams - AP

Posted on 05/09/2005 5:57:02 PM PDT by NormsRevenge

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1 posted on 05/09/2005 5:57:03 PM PDT by NormsRevenge
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To: NormsRevenge

When is Bush ever going to excercise the veto? I believe he holds a record (0) for the # of vetoes. Someone needs to put a muzzle on the spending in congress!


2 posted on 05/09/2005 6:01:55 PM PDT by Arkie2
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To: NormsRevenge

I spell pork......GOP.


3 posted on 05/09/2005 6:02:46 PM PDT by CROSSHIGHWAYMAN (NO PRISONERS!!)
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Absolutely. If there ever was a time for a symbolic veto, this is it. Just breaking the suspense of this reverse "no hitter" would be worth it. Why take a Constitutional power off the table by not using it?


4 posted on 05/09/2005 6:04:01 PM PDT by Stirner
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To: CROSSHIGHWAYMAN

oink oink oink oink SOOOOOOOOOEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE


5 posted on 05/09/2005 6:05:00 PM PDT by The Red Zone (Florida, the sun-shame state and Georgia, the rotten peach, and Illinois the chicken injun.)
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To: NormsRevenge

Sounds like a perfect bill for Bush to veto---if for no other reason than to get rid of the moniker of being the only president not to veto a bill....


6 posted on 05/09/2005 6:05:10 PM PDT by Txsleuth (Mark Levin for Supreme Court Judge)
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To: NormsRevenge

Hometown payoffs.


7 posted on 05/09/2005 6:06:02 PM PDT by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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I wonder how many 'robert byrd rest stops' and other assorted pork in WV this bill includes?


8 posted on 05/09/2005 6:07:43 PM PDT by flashbunny
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I hope President Bush does veto this.

The money would come from steps to prevent fuel tax evasion,

I wonder what that is about? Who (or what) is evading fuel taxes?

9 posted on 05/09/2005 6:11:05 PM PDT by snowsislander
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There is a few million bucks buried in there, to put a bus stop a mile from my house.


10 posted on 05/09/2005 6:12:35 PM PDT by patton ("Fool," said my Muse to me, "look in thy heart, and write.")
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To: NormsRevenge
Taxpayer Powered Pork on the Prowl


11 posted on 05/09/2005 6:20:56 PM PDT by xcamel (Deep Red, stuck in a "bleu" state.)
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I wonder what that is about? Who (or what) is evading fuel taxes?

It's boilerplate. The most common "fuel tax evasion" probably consists of farmers filling their pick-ups with "farm diesel" -- i.e., the diesel they buy by the tank and store on their farm for off-road use by farm equipment (tractors, harvesters, etc.).

Most farmers are scrupulously honest and don't cheat. Plus, I don't know how you'd catch the offenders without flying squads and numerous checkpoints on rural roads --making the exercise more costly than it would be worth.

With an immense effort, they won't recoup more than a fraction of the claimed "billions". But, to a Congressman, that's not the point, is it? The real point is spending that extra $11 billion.

12 posted on 05/09/2005 6:21:12 PM PDT by okie01 (The Mainstream Media: IGNORANCE ON PARADE)
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the Bush administration ... threatened veto

HAHAHAH, BUSH STUPID -- NO KNOW HOW TO VETO

13 posted on 05/09/2005 6:31:11 PM PDT by xrp (Executing assigned posting duties flawlessly -- ZERO mistakes)
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It's boilerplate. The most common "fuel tax evasion" probably consists of farmers filling their pick-ups with "farm diesel" -- i.e., the diesel they buy by the tank and store on their farm for off-road use by farm equipment (tractors, harvesters, etc.).

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With an immense effort, they won't recoup more than a fraction of the claimed "billions". But, to a Congressman, that's not the point, is it? The real point is spending that extra $11 billion.

Goodness. Farm diesel?

A search on the net showed that the federal excise tax is only 25 cents a gallon for road diesel; even if there are a couple of thousand farmers out there evading the tax and illicitly driving, say, 30,000 miles each year, at an average of 15 miles per gallon that comes to $500 per scofflaw farmer, or maybe $1,000,000 assuming that we have 2,000 of those miscreants out there keeping the roads hot.

The cost of finding and fining those 2,000 tax-dodging farmers is going to be a lot more than $1 million.

14 posted on 05/09/2005 6:36:17 PM PDT by snowsislander
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If states expect the money back, why not have them collect and spend it themselves? Get the Feds out of it altogether.


15 posted on 05/09/2005 6:57:22 PM PDT by ClaireSolt (.)
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To: NormsRevenge
he Senate moved Monday to add about $11 billion to a six-year highway and transit bill, putting it on a collision course with the Bush administration and a threatened veto.

"A billion here, and a billion there, and pretty soon you're talking about real money." --Senator Everett McKinley Dirksen (R-Illinois)

16 posted on 05/09/2005 7:04:28 PM PDT by southernnorthcarolina (UNC Tar Heels: NCAA Basketball Champions 1957/1982/1993/2005)
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The cost of finding and fining those 2,000 tax-dodging farmers is going to be a lot more than $1 million.

But the senators would have you believe that they've got a way to do it...so they can spend the money.

This is budgeting by wishcast, the kind of thing no family nor any business would every succeed in doing. But that won't stop Congress.

17 posted on 05/09/2005 7:13:30 PM PDT by okie01 (The Mainstream Media: IGNORANCE ON PARADE)
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To: snowsislander
The cost of finding and fining those 2,000 tax-dodging farmers is going to be a lot more than $1 million.

But the senators would have you believe that they've got a way to do it...so they can spend the money.

This is budgeting by wishcast, the kind of thing no family nor any business would every succeed in doing. But that won't stop the porkers in Congress.

18 posted on 05/09/2005 7:13:48 PM PDT by okie01 (The Mainstream Media: IGNORANCE ON PARADE)
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To: NormsRevenge

Bush hasn't vetoed a damn thing and he is not about to start now. The Republicans are making FDR look like Hayek.


19 posted on 05/09/2005 8:15:11 PM PDT by nonliberal (Graduate: Curtis E. LeMay School of International Relations)
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