[Ramius]

Roger that. It would be interesting to hear from the Nav gang on a sub... though... I suspect it is closer to surface nav than we might have guessed. Charts is charts... :-)

[BIGLOOK]

Just a thought. We've seen the pics off the sub's sonar dome stoved in on the port side. Doesn't look like a head on strike. But hell, I wouldn't like 15' of an A/C I was flying in to hit anything.

I give the Captain and Crew a BZ for getting SF under control and returning to port. I know the Navy is unforgiving in these incidents. I read the mixed message in the Admiral's remarks in this thread.

I've friends who are former submariners but not NAV who tell me there's a preprogrammed course plot and redundant systems. There are changes in the sea floor over time; if that chart was from 1960 and that sea mount grew 10 feet....well, go figure.

Good chat, Ramius. Let's see what we can find out.