Posted on 05/09/2005 10:18:08 AM PDT by Dog Gone
Some folks suggested that we begin a thread similar to the Marsburg Surveillance Project for monitoring developments regarding Avian Flu.
The purpose is to have an extended thread where those interested can post articles and comments as this story unfolds.
If we're lucky, the story and this thread will fade away.
See posts in the 1200-1270-1350 range for the experimental vaccine they are working on. It is mixed in with the suis flu discussions...but it's there.
Daily Bird Flu News Updates:
http://www.thepoultrysite.com/LatestNews/?AREA=LatestNews&Display=6187
People's Daily - 19th October 2005
Romania detects more suspected bird flu cases
ROMANIA detected new cases of suspected bird flu in the Danube delta and one of them occurred close to the border with Ukraine, Agriculture Minister Gheorghe Flutur said on Tuesday.
"A swan tested positive with (bird flu) antibodies close to the border with Ukraine, near the village of C.A. Rosetti. A few swans in Maliuc and a wild duck in Ceamurlia de Jos also tested seropositive," Flutur told reporters.
Have any of you clicked through to the Poultry Site? Take a look at the picture in the right hand sidebar of birds being destroyed by fire. I am not one to get crazy about such matters, but it sure looks like the Hound of Hell in the smoke near the top of the cloud and several demonlike creatures near the bottom dancing about. Really weird or maybe just my imagination.
I don't know how to post pics on FR even with all the helpful instructions from fellow FReepers and the HTML Bootcamp. The right click on my computer doesn't pull up the pic addy? Perhaps someone could pull that pic over?
Thank you for taking the time to straighten this question out.
My wife and I follow these threads religiously, and we were confused as well.
We all appreciate your work, and your dedication to accuracy.
Your original statement that "there is no vaccine under commercial development", appears to be spot on.
For those who choose to argue with MA, I urge caution.
great post - must see
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TechCentralStation has posted a few good articles recently about this issue. Here's the most recent:
http://www.techcentralstation.com/101705B.html
Preparing for the Pandemic
Henry I. Miller, MD
I have a long and intimate relationship with influenza virus. More than 30 years ago, I was the co-discoverer of one of the viral enzymes that are essential for the virus to duplicate and proliferate. Later, my medical training taught me respect for this pathogen. Real influenza -- as opposed to a garden-variety cold -- is a serious illness. Its victims don't soon forget the fever, headache, muscle aches and profound weakness, and in an average year -- in spite of vaccines that are usually at least moderately effective -- it kills tens of thousands in this country.
Now it appears that the flu virus is poised to repeat its several-times-a-century metamorphosis into something much worse.
First, some background. The exterior of the flu virus consists of a lipid envelope from which project two surface proteins, hemagglutinin (H) and neuraminidase (N). The virus constantly mutates, which may cause significant alterations in either or both of these, enabling the virus to elude detection and neutralization by humans' immune system. A minor change is called genetic drift; a major one, genetic shift. The former is the reason that flu vaccines need to be updated from year to year; an example of the latter was the change in subtype from H1N1 to H2N2 that gave rise to the 1957 pandemic. This new variant was sufficiently distinct that people had little immunity to it: The rate of infection of symptomatic flu that year exceeded 50 percent in urban populations, and 70,000 died from it in the United States alone.
In the 1957 outbreak the mortality rate (the fraction of infected persons who die) was low, but we appear to be on the verge of another, much worse pandemic.
During the past several years, an especially virulent strain of avian flu, designated H5N1, has ravaged flocks of domesticated poultry in Asia and spread to migratory birds and (rarely) to humans. Now found from Russia and Japan to Indonesia, it is moving inexorably toward Europe. Since 2003, more than 60 human deaths have been attributed to H5N1. Public health experts and virologists are concerned about the potential of this strain because it already has two of the three characteristics needed to cause a pandemic: It can jump from birds to human, and can produce a severe and often fatal illness. If additional genetic evolution makes H5N1 highly transmissible among humans -- the third characteristic of a pandemic strain -- a devastating world-wide outbreak could become a reality.
Moreover, this is an extraordinarily deadly variant: The mortality rate for persons infected with the existing H5N1 appears to be around 50 percent, whereas the usual annual flu bug kills fewer than one percent.
We are ill-prepared for a flu pandemic. Reserve capacity is grossly inadequate for vaccines, drugs and hospital beds. The best and most cost-effective intervention -- prevention with a vaccine -- presents many obstacles, technological, economic and logistical.
Anti-flu drugs exist but are not a panacea. Unlike vaccines, which confer long-term immunity after one or two doses, drugs need to be taken for long periods. The only drug that has been shown to prevent the flu is Tamiflu, the prophylactic dose of which is one tablet a day, the effect lasting only as long as one takes the drug. (The other major anti-flu medicine, Relenza, has only been shown to be effective to treat, but not prevent, flu.)
Historically, flu pandemics have come in two or three waves, lasting a total of 13-23 months. In other words, the need to take Tamiflu -- by first responders, health care workers and ordinary citizens -- could go on for months and months, or even years. U.S. public health officials have said they plan to buy 20 million doses of Tamiflu, but that would be enough to treat only 200,000 people (fewer than the number who would attend a seven-game World Series) for 100 days. And the retail price per pill is around $8, so the expense to treat that small number of people for that amount of time would be $160 million.
According to various models, in the absence of sufficient amounts of an effective vaccine -- which is not yet within reach -- to blunt a pandemic we would need to treat perhaps a third to a half of the population with Tamiflu. Do the math: 100 million people for 100 days equals 10 billion doses, at a retail cost of $80 billion, in order to blunt the pandemic's first wave.
Although President Bush and HHS Secretary Leavitt are saying some of the right things about the need to prepare for the pandemic, if they or their staffs have done this sort of calculation, they give no sign of it.
We need push-pull incentives to forming public-private partnerships. Public policy must reward both inputs on R&D (via grants, tax credits and the waiver of regulatory registration fees) and outputs of products (with guaranteed purchases, payments for the regulatory approval of new drugs or vaccines, and indemnification from liability claims). Part of this effort should be R&D on various new technologies and approaches to making flu vaccine, to boosting the immune response to vaccines, and to creating greater reserve capacity for the production of drugs like Tamiflu and Relenza.
Preparation for pandemic flu involves many thorny issues of science, technology and medicine, but also much more. It requires contingency plans for the "social" aspects of a deadly pandemic -- when to shut our borders to travelers from infected regions, close schools, restrict public gatherings, and enforce quarantines, as well as a designated chain of command to implement those decisions.
Like the WWII Manhattan Project to develop the atomic bomb, preparation for a flu pandemic involves scientific uncertainties, strategic decisions that span many specialties and government departments, and prodigious resources. To oversee all this, we'll need a Flu-Pandemic Czar -- someone analogous to Army General Leslie Groves, who headed the Manhattan Project: a plenipotentiary with broad powers and discretion.
There is no time to waste.
Henry I. Miller, a physician and fellow at the Hoover Institution, was the founding director of the Office of Biotechnology at the FDA, 1989-1993. Barron's selected his latest book, "The Frankenfood Myth..." as one of the 25 Best Books of 2004.
1,836 posted on 10/18/2005 2:42:15 PM EDT by EarthStomper
Your original statement that "there is no vaccine under commercial development", appears to be spot on.
For those who choose to argue with MA, I urge caution.
I, too appreciate MA's fight for accuracy.
Huck, if you get into a 'wrasslin match defending MA, please know I'll be right there behind you with a great big hat pin, ready to stab anybody who gets the best of you.
[7 bills, showing 1-7 ]
S.96 'A bill to target Federal funding for research and development, to amend section 1928 of the Social Security Act to encourage the production of influenza vaccines by eliminating the price cap applicable to the purchase of such vaccines under contracts entered into by the Secretary of Health and Human Services, to amend the Internal Revenue Code of 1986 to establish a tax credit to encourage vaccine production capacity, and for other purposes. '
1 R
S.AMDT.159 'AMENDMENT PURPOSE:
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2 D
S.375 'A bill to amend the Public Health Service Act to provide for an influenza vaccine awareness campaign, ensure a sufficient influenza vaccine supply, and prepare for an influenza pandemic or epidemic, to amend the Internal Revenue Code of 1986 to encourage vaccine production capacity, and for other purposes. '
5 D, 2 R
S.AMDT.402 'AMENDMENT PURPOSE:
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2 D
H.R.628 'To amend the Public Health Service Act to provide for an influenza vaccine awareness campaign, ensure a sufficient influenza vaccine supply, and prepare for an influenza pandemic or epidemic, to amend the Internal Revenue Code of 1986 to encourage vaccine production capacity, and for other purposes. '
13 D
H.R.813 'To amend the Public Health Service Act to provide for an influenza vaccine awareness campaign, ensure a sufficient influenza vaccine supply, and prepare for an influenza pandemic or epidemic, to amend the Internal Revenue Code of 1986 to encourage vaccine production capacity, and for other purposes. '
34 D, 1 I
S.AMDT.1886 'AMENDMENT PURPOSE:
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10 D, 1 R
http://www.congress.org/congressorg/issuesaction/billlist/?keyword=flu
I would be happy to post that photo for you, but, after checking it out I noticed it is a Reuters photo. Can't post anything from Reuters on FR. Best for folks to go to the site you linked to view the photo.
Please add me to the ping list.
Thank you in advance.
The silence from that corner has been deafening.
Drinking my tincture, taking my vitamins....
Oct 19 23:47
Father And Son Treated For Suspected Bird Flu
Jakarta (ANTARA News) - A father and his son were admitted to the Sulianti Saroso special hospital for infectious diseases here on Wednesday for suspected bird flu increasing the number of suspected bird flu patients that had been treated at the hospital so far.
"We have received a report from the RSPI hospital`s director that the hospital had received two new patients - a father and his son - with symptoms of bird flue," Health Minister Siti Fadillah Supari said after breaking the fast with her ministry officials at her residence.
The two patients had been transferred by the Hajj Hospital in East Jakarta to the RSPI Sulianti Saroso hospital after showing bird flu symptoms such as high fever, breathing problems, headache, and a sore throat.
The minister said on a different occasion that the government would not as yet revoke the extraordinary status it had declared in the middle of September in dealing with the disease. She said the status would only be revoked after the country was really free of the disease.
Five people have been declared as having contracted the virus by the World Health Organization`s laboratory in Hong Kong, and three of them had succumbed.
Until this month a total of 44 people in the country have been suspected of having contracted the disease and nine of them have died.
http://www.antara.co.id/en/seenws/?id=6887
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News from areas other than Indonesia:
Second Romanian bird flu outbreak
Phanom Thuan declared an avian flu epidemic zone
Man dies despite tests coming back negative
Thanks for letting me know, too bad. It's a freaky photo though.
This is an important issue and we are not stealing your image for profit but for education and 'awe'.
Flames engulf dead domestic birds culled on suspicion of bird flu disease in the village of Ceamurlia de Jos, 300km ( 186 miles) east of Bucharest on October 14, 2005. Lab tests have confirmed the deadly H5N1 strain of avian flu was responsible for the death of birds in Romania. REUTERS/Bogdan Cristel
Presence of bird flu in Western Georgia not confirmed
Despite widespread fears, there have been no officially confirmed cases of bird flu in Western Georgia, government health officials report. Head of the Public Health Department Levan Baramidze stated that poultry found dead in the Imereti region had died of a normal aviary illness. At the same time, the Ministry of Agriculture has dispatched disinfection equipment to the Sarpi border crossing with Turkey in an effort to prevent the illness from crossing that border. In response to bird flu fears, the Ministry of Environment Protection and Natural resources of Georgia has prohibited the hunting of migrating birds. The government has already allocated GEL 800,000 for preventive measures against the illness. (Prime News)
When will NIAID begin testing the H5N1 vaccines, and where will clinical trials be held?
The first clinical trial is recruiting volunteers and began start vaccinations on April 4, 2005. This first trial will investigate the sanofi pasteur vaccines safety and ability to generate an immune response (immunogenicity). The trial will take place at three NIAID-sponsored Vaccine and Treatment Evaluation Units (VTEUs).
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