Posted on 05/09/2005 10:18:08 AM PDT by Dog Gone
Some folks suggested that we begin a thread similar to the Marsburg Surveillance Project for monitoring developments regarding Avian Flu.
The purpose is to have an extended thread where those interested can post articles and comments as this story unfolds.
If we're lucky, the story and this thread will fade away.
It's being spread easier now...
http://news.ft.com/cms/s/c15c236a-2bcf-11da-995a-00000e2511c8.html
Looks like the west is starting to see the looming crisis:
Health experts from the United States, Australia, and Canada have begun arriving in Jakarta to help Indonesia deal with its growing bird flu problem.
http://www.voanews.com/english/2005-09-23-voa34.cfm
Here is another, from Malaysia:
Daily Bird Flu News Updates:
http://www.thepoultrysite.com/LatestNews/?AREA=LatestNews&Display=6187
As usual follow the link for the full stories!
Reuters - 26th September 2005
Philippines fears migratory birds may bring flu
PHILIPPINES - The Philippines said on Monday it was monitoring bird sanctuaries because of concerns that the seasonal arrival of migratory birds next month might bring avian flu to the country. The government also said it had ordered tighter surveillance of illegal trading of exotic birds in southern Mindanao island, and their immediate destruction if they came from bird-flu affected countries such as Indonesia. "The disease has continued to spread in many neighbouring Asian countries. Active infection in migratory birds in Russia and China was also confirmed," Agriculture Secretary Domingo Panganiban said in a statement.
Bird Flu makes cover of National geographic. Very good article also
New dog flu virus came from horses, experts say
By Maggie Fox, Health and Science Correspondent--Reuters
Tue Sep 27, 2:05 AM ET
http://search.yahoo.com/bin/search?p=dog%20flu
WASHINGTON (Reuters) - A new dog flu virus that has killed some racing greyhounds made an unusual jump from horses to dogs and may threaten pets but not people, experts said on Monday.
And the virus can also infect dogs without making them sick, meaning it is not as deadly as some reports have suggested, they said.
But studying it has important implications for understanding the H5N1 avian flu virus now devastating flocks of poultry and which has killed 65 people in four Asian nations since late 2003.
The new dog virus is an influenza A virus called H3N8, a designation that describes two important proteins in the virus.
There is no evidence that it can infect people, said Dr. Ruben Donis of the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, who has published a report on the new virus in the journal Science.(excerpt)
Daily Bird Flu News Updates:
ChannelNewsAsia.com - 27th September 2005
Indonesia has to do much more to combat bird flu
INDONESIA - It has been a week since Jakarta declared that the country was facing an extraordinary bird flu outbreak, but as the disease claimed the sixth victim in the country yesterday, the government was facing criticism for its handling of the crisis. Officials have been accused of being slow in sharing information, slow to carry out checks and held back by ponderous bureaucracy. However, it is important to bear in mind that the Indonesian government cannot combat the disease by itself.
I've read that massive amounts of Tamiflu are being sent to Jakarta by WHO and others...but as far as I recall, that was only going to be done if there was human-to-human transmission in a 3rd world country that couldn't afford to contain the virus on its own...
I'm wondering if those Tamiflu doses are by any chance going to the Indonesian wealthy, or is this the breakout breakout?
That really hits home. I live a 40 minute drive from Toronto. Haven't heard anything on the news or newspapers. I'll try looking actively now.
I thought I read earlier on this thread that Tamiflu wasn't considered effective on Bird Flu. what's up with that?
Are there Elderberry capsules? It's probably too late for most of us to harvest wild elderberrys for the homemade stuff.
What alternatives are available in health food stores for those of us who want to protect our grandchildren. I'm not so sure my daughters in law would approve of me dosing their children with a combination of elderberrys and vodka.
Someone may have posted that Tamiflu is not effective on Avian flu, but it is. Amantadine may or may not be. They each work on different sections of the virus. Some sources have said that Amantadine was used by the Chinese, given to their chickens to prevent flu outbreaks in the chickens, so that the flu when they get the Avian Flu, it's resistant.
But we don't know that for sure. Amantadine is readily available and cheaper than Tamiflu. Tamiflu is getting hard to find, and the prices for what is available are going up. Another poster said that the price is now $100 for 10 tablets, used to be $60 for 10 tablets.
Elderberry cough drops are available, and Sambucol is still available. It isn't know how potent the elderberry cough drops are. Ricola is one company that makes them. Sambucol is still under $10 for a 6-8 ounce bottle as far as I know. Drugstore.com carries it. Sambucol is the one that has been researched as effective against influenza and other viruses, and is an elderberry preparation.
I wonder if the National Geographic article is online...?
Type either in Google. Lots of sources.
Best way, though, is to ask your own doctor for a prescription. Tell him why. If you have a good relationship, you'll likely get it. Then, if you have insurance, it may even pay for it.
Here's one source:
http://www.drugdelivery.ca/s3353-s-TAMIFLU.aspx
Not sure but it is a very good article. I would recommend it.
Thank you so much!
thank you for that link
Confirmed Human Cases of Avian Influenza A (H5N1) in Recent Waves of Disease |
||||||
Country |
12/3/033/10/04 |
7/19/0410/8/04 |
12/16/04present |
TOTAL SINCE 12/3/03 |
||
Cases (Deaths) |
Cases (Deaths) |
Cases (Deaths) |
Cases (Deaths) |
|||
Official* |
Unofficial |
Official* |
Unofficial |
|||
Vietnam |
23 (16) |
4 (4) |
64 (21) |
68 (23) |
91 (41) |
95 (43) |
Thailand |
12 (8) |
5 (4) |
0 (0) |
0 (0) |
17 (12) |
17 (12) |
Cambodia |
0 (0) |
0 (0) |
4 (4) |
4 (4) |
4 (4) |
4 (4) |
Indonesia |
0 (0) |
0 (0) |
3 (2) |
7 (5) |
3 (2) |
7 (5) |
Total |
35 (24) |
9 (8) |
71 (27) |
79 (32) |
115 (59) |
123 (64) |
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