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Avian Flu Surveillance Project
Various ^ | May 9, 2005 | Vanity

Posted on 05/09/2005 10:18:08 AM PDT by Dog Gone

Some folks suggested that we begin a thread similar to the Marsburg Surveillance Project for monitoring developments regarding Avian Flu.

The purpose is to have an extended thread where those interested can post articles and comments as this story unfolds.

If we're lucky, the story and this thread will fade away.


TOPICS: Extended News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: ah5n1genotypez; avian; avianflu; avianflubirdflu; avianinfluenza; bird; birdflu; flu; h5n1; h5n1project; outbreak; reassortment; spanishflu; theskyisfalling
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To: Judith Anne
Bad news. Thanks for the update.
1,161 posted on 08/02/2005 10:42:18 AM PDT by Myrddin
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To: Judith Anne
The last paragraph, about the Chinese H5N1 routing from China to Russia to Europe (in the next few days) is what caught my attention.

Meanwhile, on CNBC, the theme of the day is something like "Every new day in America is even happier than the previous day". Man, do some people have a surprise coming. Some things money can't buy. At this time, however, money will still buy amantadine/rimantadine and I am going to spend some in hopes that partial efficacy will remain.

1,162 posted on 08/02/2005 11:26:43 AM PDT by steve86
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To: BearWash
At this time, however, money will still buy amantadine/rimantadine and I am going to spend some in hopes that partial efficacy will remain.

Can this be done without a prescription?

If not, how can someone who is not sick get it?

1,163 posted on 08/02/2005 11:29:19 AM PDT by EternalHope (Boycott everything French forever. Including their vassal nations.)
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To: EternalHope
Hi, you have to take your chances and order from one of the online/offshore pharmacies. However, I have been ordering my statins and other prescription drugs from other countries for some time now and have never encountered a problem.

One thing to keep in mind about amantadine/rimantadine is that they are potent neurochemically active drugs in addition to having anti-viral effects. Their primary uses are in treatment of Parkinson's Disease and Multiple Sclerosis. You want to be well aware of possible side effects and not use them indiscriminately.

a dopaminergic, noradrenergic and serotonergic substance which blocks monoaminoxidase A and NMDA receptors and raises beta-endorphin/beta-lipotropin levels.

We should probably take this discussion to the preparedness thread.

1,164 posted on 08/02/2005 11:37:17 AM PDT by steve86
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To: Judith Anne

http://en.rian.ru/russia/20050802/41078180.html



Russia
UPDATE: Quarantine imposed on all poultry farms in Russia
21:53 | 02/ 08/ 2005



MOSCOW, August 2 (RIA Novosti) - A quarantine has been introduced at all poultry farms in Russia after the bird flu virus was discovered in the Novosibirsk region (Siberia), the Agriculture Ministry said.

According to the Federal Service for Veterinary and Phytosanitary Supervision, research shows the bird disease was caused by the H5N1 virus and preliminarily spread by migrant birds from South East Asia. The bird flu was discovered in 14 settlements in five districts of the Novosibirsk region, in a village of the Altai Territory (southern Siberia), and in a village of the Tyumen region (West Siberia).

Information is being verified in other regions where bird deaths have been reported.

The incineration of diseased birds and of birds that may have come in contact with them in a number of villages suspected of bird flu outbreaks allowed the virus to be localized.

The Federal Service for Veterinary and Phytosanitary Supervision is doing everything possible to control and eliminate the areas of infection and is taking sanitary measures, including instructing the population on rules of sanitation for poultry. Experts have been assigned to the Novosibirsk and Tyumen regions and the Altai Territory to assist in conducting epidemic countermeasures.


1,165 posted on 08/02/2005 11:38:04 AM PDT by KSApplePie_two
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To: BearWash

Thanks for the info!

And you're right. This is the kind of stuff that prompted the preparedness thread in the first place.


1,166 posted on 08/02/2005 11:56:39 AM PDT by EternalHope (Boycott everything French forever. Including their vassal nations.)
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To: EternalHope; Judith Anne; All
Commentary

H5N1 Bird Flu In Europe?

Recombinomics Commentary
August 2, 2005

Avian flu is approaching the Sverdlov area [Yekaterinburg]. Dangerous virus already pronik on territory Ural Federation Oblast. This week began to behave communications about discovering of infected birds in Tyumen and Kurganskoi areas.

The above machine translation suggests H5N1 may have already entered Europe. Yekaterinburg is in the Ural Mountains about 50 miles from the Kurgan Region. If infected birds were in the Kurgan Region when the Russian media report was written, those birds should have already reached the Ural Mountains. The Kurgan region is southwest of the Tyumen region and would mark the furthest reported point to the west for the migration from Chany Lake in the Novosibirsk area

Russia just announced a quarantine of all poultry, further supporting the level of concern. Regardless of whether H5N1 enters Europe today or in the next few days, it is likely to run though the continent and inflict considerable economic and psychological damage.

Since the migration has not started for most of the waterfowl in Qinghai and Chany Lakes regions, it seems likely that the rapid spread of H5N1 across Russia will be reported throughout Asia and beyond.

http://www.recombinomics.com/News/08020509/H5N1_Europe.html

1,167 posted on 08/02/2005 12:53:34 PM PDT by Oorang ( A great deal of talent is lost to the world for want of a little courage. -Goethe)
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To: All
Commentary

H5N1 and Ebola Recombinants in Qinghai and Sichuan

Recombinomics Commentary
August 2, 2005

The spread of H5N1 along Russia's southern border and the increase toll in Sichuan province form the mysterious pig disease, demand more transparency from China who claims to have never had a human case of H5N1 and a fatal pig disease due to a relatively benign bacterium.

Boxun reports indicate that China has several strains of H5N1 and Ebola capable of causing human disease. Although sequence data for the early Qinghai isolates were published, China has failed to share samples from live birds or bird flu isolates beyond the 12 collected in May. Similarly, samples from Sichuan appear to be lacking. Sichuan is adjacent to Qinghai, suggesting a possible linkage.

Boxun reports also describe an industrial accident and use of the wrong treatment as part of the problem in Sichuan. The are also rumors of problems caused by an adenovirus vectored hog cholera vaccine. There many be several viruses involved, including an Ebola recombinant.

Thus, there clearly appear to be too many viruses in the area that could recombine and create a new entity. Ebola and H5N1 share a region in common that could allow for recombination between the two viruses. Having Ebola and H5N1 co-circulating creates a potentially volatile situate. This situation could be exacerbated by a adenovirus vectored vaccine because adenovirus also has homology to this region, as does African swine fever virus.

Thus, the boxun report describing recombinants could be referring to many different combinations including Ebola and H5N1 or either one plus adenovirus linked of hog cholera virus.

To resolve these issues, samples must be provided. China has created a genetically unstable environment and denials of human H5N1 infections or creating new bacterial diseases are not acceptable.

http://www.recombinomics.com/News/08020508/H5N1_Ebola_Recombinants.html

1,168 posted on 08/02/2005 1:03:06 PM PDT by Oorang ( A great deal of talent is lost to the world for want of a little courage. -Goethe)
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Just to have an idea about the province location... Novosibirsk (Blue), Omsk (red) Altai (orange) Tyumen (yellow) and Kurgan (grey) province.

From www.PoultryMed.com

1,169 posted on 08/02/2005 1:10:24 PM PDT by Oorang ( A great deal of talent is lost to the world for want of a little courage. -Goethe)
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To: Oorang

It won't be long before all of Europe has the same decisions to make that Russia is making now.

My bet is that most European nations will stick their collective heads in the sand.

Most of the world is in denial, but this thing is heating up.


1,170 posted on 08/02/2005 1:11:10 PM PDT by EternalHope (Boycott everything French forever. Including their vassal nations.)
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To: EternalHope; All
Heating up is right EternalHope.

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Ports ordered to be on the alert for strange diseases

(02-08-2005)

HA NOI — The Ministry of Health is asking personnel at the nation’s entry points, such as airports, bordergates and harbours, to be on the alert for the penetration of strange diseases into Viet Nam.

All persons with a fever upon entering the country will be quarantined and given timely medical treatment, according to deputy health minister Trinh Quan Huan.

Huan said a strange disease transmitted from swine that occurred recently in China had not yet appeared in Viet Nam. "We have seen encephalitis B infections pass from pigs to human through mosquitoes. We now have vaccine to prevent the disease," said Huan.

Bird flu

A woman in Ha Tay Province tested positive for the H5N1 bird flu virus, bringing to a total of four the number people infected with the virus in the province since early this year, one of whom has died, said the director of provincial Preventive Health Centre.

Centre director Hoang Ñuc Hanh said Nguyen Thi Them, 49, was brought to the local hospital with symptoms of fever, coughing and chest pain on July 22. Three days later, she was moved to the National Institute for Clinical Research in Tropical Medicine and received the testing result there.

Hanh said Them’s family ate chicken bought at a local market some days before she showed signs of fever. A centre team has visited her village in Quoc Oai District to spray chemicals around the family and market. — VNS

http://vietnamnews.vnagency.com.vn/showarticle.php?num=02HEA020805

1,171 posted on 08/02/2005 1:19:12 PM PDT by Oorang ( A great deal of talent is lost to the world for want of a little courage. -Goethe)
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To: xVIer
"Streptococcus suis and found no evidence of any mutation, "

Now why add that.....

1,172 posted on 08/02/2005 2:56:28 PM PDT by Kelly_2000 (Because they stand on a wall and say nothing is going to hurt you tonight. Not on my watch)
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To: Kelly_2000

http://www.theepochtimes.com/news/5-8-1/30841.html
Sichuan’s 'Mystery Disease' may be Ebola Virus
According to Interview Transcript on China’s Internet



QUOTE:
"The earliest occurrence of this Ebola virus disease can be traced back to Shenzhen city in Guangdong Province. On March 25, 2005, The Epoch Times published an article on the first appearance of the Ebola virus in Shenzhen during February. The virus had already caused several deaths and cases of ‘missing people’ [Editor’s note: rather than accurately reporting the cause of death, the authorities simply claim that victims are ‘missing’].

This article mentioned that medical personnel who had been working in hospitals for years said that they had never seen an illness like it. The bodies of those who died of the illness appeared to be dissolved, much like the Ebola virus in Africa. The main spread of the virus was through blood, causing doctors to die after contact with infected blood.

On March 26, Shenzhen Customs and related hospitals and government departments held a confidential meeting to pass an order from higher authorities to strengthen the hygiene-related work. An insider also disclosed that at dawn on March 26, another suspected Ebola virus death case occurred in Nanao Town, Shenzhen. There are indications that the Ebola virus was already spreading in Mainland China. The CCP blocked this information, telling the outside world that the deaths were caused by the advanced stages of AIDS. "


1,173 posted on 08/02/2005 4:40:26 PM PDT by xVIer
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To: Dog Gone

One of my correspondents in Viet Nam said in an email yesterday that something called SOT XUAT HUYET is afflicting many people in the country. That translates as hemorrage fever. Viet Nam has never had something like that before and coupled with the reports coming from China, I'd say this Chinese disease problem is truly ominous.


1,174 posted on 08/02/2005 4:47:29 PM PDT by ThanhPhero (di hanh huong den La Vang)
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To: ThanhPhero

I'd rather keep this thread focused on bird flu and have someone open a hemorragic fever thread if it seems warranted. But I don't own the thread, so it will go where it will go.


1,175 posted on 08/02/2005 4:54:01 PM PDT by Dog Gone
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To: ThanhPhero; Judith Anne; All

WOW! Thanks for posting that bit of info...really bad news though. Everyone needs to see post 1174... I am STUNNED! What do y'all make of it?


1,176 posted on 08/02/2005 4:55:13 PM PDT by xVIer
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To: Dog Gone

HI! Maybe there should be an alternative thread...but isn't there a chance this is bird flu, or at least some version of it? There is too much news regarding this to be ignored...and by the way it looks like you DO own this thread, it's got your name on it ;-)


1,177 posted on 08/02/2005 5:00:50 PM PDT by xVIer
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To: xVIer
Just because I posted it doesn't grant me policeman status over it. I did intend it to focus on Avian Flu which is going to get us sooner or later if past history is any indication.

My guess is the new outbreak in China and now perhaps in Vietnam is a completely unrelated virus. There's nothing that I've seen to link the two other than geography.

If that turns out not to be the case, then this certainly would be a place to post related developments.

But if somebody wants to post a Garfield cartoon on this thread, there's not much I can do about it.

1,178 posted on 08/02/2005 5:10:46 PM PDT by Dog Gone
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To: Dog Gone

Just kidding about you owning this thread...I respect your opinion about what should be posted here.


1,179 posted on 08/02/2005 5:15:28 PM PDT by xVIer
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To: Judith Anne

1,180 posted on 08/02/2005 5:45:22 PM PDT by Oorang ( A great deal of talent is lost to the world for want of a little courage. -Goethe)
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