Posted on 05/09/2005 10:18:08 AM PDT by Dog Gone
Meanwhile, on CNBC, the theme of the day is something like "Every new day in America is even happier than the previous day". Man, do some people have a surprise coming. Some things money can't buy. At this time, however, money will still buy amantadine/rimantadine and I am going to spend some in hopes that partial efficacy will remain.
Can this be done without a prescription?
If not, how can someone who is not sick get it?
One thing to keep in mind about amantadine/rimantadine is that they are potent neurochemically active drugs in addition to having anti-viral effects. Their primary uses are in treatment of Parkinson's Disease and Multiple Sclerosis. You want to be well aware of possible side effects and not use them indiscriminately.
a dopaminergic, noradrenergic and serotonergic substance which blocks monoaminoxidase A and NMDA receptors and raises beta-endorphin/beta-lipotropin levels.
We should probably take this discussion to the preparedness thread.
http://en.rian.ru/russia/20050802/41078180.html
Russia
UPDATE: Quarantine imposed on all poultry farms in Russia
21:53 | 02/ 08/ 2005
MOSCOW, August 2 (RIA Novosti) - A quarantine has been introduced at all poultry farms in Russia after the bird flu virus was discovered in the Novosibirsk region (Siberia), the Agriculture Ministry said.
According to the Federal Service for Veterinary and Phytosanitary Supervision, research shows the bird disease was caused by the H5N1 virus and preliminarily spread by migrant birds from South East Asia. The bird flu was discovered in 14 settlements in five districts of the Novosibirsk region, in a village of the Altai Territory (southern Siberia), and in a village of the Tyumen region (West Siberia).
Information is being verified in other regions where bird deaths have been reported.
The incineration of diseased birds and of birds that may have come in contact with them in a number of villages suspected of bird flu outbreaks allowed the virus to be localized.
The Federal Service for Veterinary and Phytosanitary Supervision is doing everything possible to control and eliminate the areas of infection and is taking sanitary measures, including instructing the population on rules of sanitation for poultry. Experts have been assigned to the Novosibirsk and Tyumen regions and the Altai Territory to assist in conducting epidemic countermeasures.
Thanks for the info!
And you're right. This is the kind of stuff that prompted the preparedness thread in the first place.
H5N1 Bird Flu In Europe?
Recombinomics Commentary
August 2, 2005
Avian flu is approaching the Sverdlov area [Yekaterinburg]. Dangerous virus already pronik on territory Ural Federation Oblast. This week began to behave communications about discovering of infected birds in Tyumen and Kurganskoi areas.
The above machine translation suggests H5N1 may have already entered Europe. Yekaterinburg is in the Ural Mountains about 50 miles from the Kurgan Region. If infected birds were in the Kurgan Region when the Russian media report was written, those birds should have already reached the Ural Mountains. The Kurgan region is southwest of the Tyumen region and would mark the furthest reported point to the west for the migration from Chany Lake in the Novosibirsk area
Russia just announced a quarantine of all poultry, further supporting the level of concern. Regardless of whether H5N1 enters Europe today or in the next few days, it is likely to run though the continent and inflict considerable economic and psychological damage.
Since the migration has not started for most of the waterfowl in Qinghai and Chany Lakes regions, it seems likely that the rapid spread of H5N1 across Russia will be reported throughout Asia and beyond.
H5N1 and Ebola Recombinants in Qinghai and Sichuan
Recombinomics Commentary
August 2, 2005
The spread of H5N1 along Russia's southern border and the increase toll in Sichuan province form the mysterious pig disease, demand more transparency from China who claims to have never had a human case of H5N1 and a fatal pig disease due to a relatively benign bacterium.
Boxun reports indicate that China has several strains of H5N1 and Ebola capable of causing human disease. Although sequence data for the early Qinghai isolates were published, China has failed to share samples from live birds or bird flu isolates beyond the 12 collected in May. Similarly, samples from Sichuan appear to be lacking. Sichuan is adjacent to Qinghai, suggesting a possible linkage.
Boxun reports also describe an industrial accident and use of the wrong treatment as part of the problem in Sichuan. The are also rumors of problems caused by an adenovirus vectored hog cholera vaccine. There many be several viruses involved, including an Ebola recombinant.
Thus, there clearly appear to be too many viruses in the area that could recombine and create a new entity. Ebola and H5N1 share a region in common that could allow for recombination between the two viruses. Having Ebola and H5N1 co-circulating creates a potentially volatile situate. This situation could be exacerbated by a adenovirus vectored vaccine because adenovirus also has homology to this region, as does African swine fever virus.
Thus, the boxun report describing recombinants could be referring to many different combinations including Ebola and H5N1 or either one plus adenovirus linked of hog cholera virus.
To resolve these issues, samples must be provided. China has created a genetically unstable environment and denials of human H5N1 infections or creating new bacterial diseases are not acceptable.
http://www.recombinomics.com/News/08020508/H5N1_Ebola_Recombinants.html
From www.PoultryMed.com
It won't be long before all of Europe has the same decisions to make that Russia is making now.
My bet is that most European nations will stick their collective heads in the sand.
Most of the world is in denial, but this thing is heating up.
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Ports ordered to be on the alert for strange diseases
(02-08-2005)
HA NOI The Ministry of Health is asking personnel at the nations entry points, such as airports, bordergates and harbours, to be on the alert for the penetration of strange diseases into Viet Nam.
All persons with a fever upon entering the country will be quarantined and given timely medical treatment, according to deputy health minister Trinh Quan Huan.
Huan said a strange disease transmitted from swine that occurred recently in China had not yet appeared in Viet Nam. "We have seen encephalitis B infections pass from pigs to human through mosquitoes. We now have vaccine to prevent the disease," said Huan.
Bird flu
A woman in Ha Tay Province tested positive for the H5N1 bird flu virus, bringing to a total of four the number people infected with the virus in the province since early this year, one of whom has died, said the director of provincial Preventive Health Centre.
Centre director Hoang Ñuc Hanh said Nguyen Thi Them, 49, was brought to the local hospital with symptoms of fever, coughing and chest pain on July 22. Three days later, she was moved to the National Institute for Clinical Research in Tropical Medicine and received the testing result there.
Hanh said Thems family ate chicken bought at a local market some days before she showed signs of fever. A centre team has visited her village in Quoc Oai District to spray chemicals around the family and market. VNS
http://vietnamnews.vnagency.com.vn/showarticle.php?num=02HEA020805
Now why add that.....
http://www.theepochtimes.com/news/5-8-1/30841.html
Sichuans 'Mystery Disease' may be Ebola Virus
According to Interview Transcript on Chinas Internet
One of my correspondents in Viet Nam said in an email yesterday that something called SOT XUAT HUYET is afflicting many people in the country. That translates as hemorrage fever. Viet Nam has never had something like that before and coupled with the reports coming from China, I'd say this Chinese disease problem is truly ominous.
I'd rather keep this thread focused on bird flu and have someone open a hemorragic fever thread if it seems warranted. But I don't own the thread, so it will go where it will go.
WOW! Thanks for posting that bit of info...really bad news though. Everyone needs to see post 1174... I am STUNNED! What do y'all make of it?
HI! Maybe there should be an alternative thread...but isn't there a chance this is bird flu, or at least some version of it? There is too much news regarding this to be ignored...and by the way it looks like you DO own this thread, it's got your name on it ;-)
My guess is the new outbreak in China and now perhaps in Vietnam is a completely unrelated virus. There's nothing that I've seen to link the two other than geography.
If that turns out not to be the case, then this certainly would be a place to post related developments.
But if somebody wants to post a Garfield cartoon on this thread, there's not much I can do about it.
Just kidding about you owning this thread...I respect your opinion about what should be posted here.
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