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The language battle that is tearing Belgium apart
The Times ^ | May 9, 2005 | Anthony Browne

Posted on 05/08/2005 11:43:04 PM PDT by MadIvan

LANGUAGE wars between French and Flemish-speakers in Belgium have reignited, sparking riots, bringing the Government to the brink of collapse and prompting some commentators to say that the country is “finished”.

The dispute, over whether 120,000 French-speakers living in Flemish areas should have the right to elect French- speaking politicians, arouses high passions in a country split between the two languages.

As the apparently innocuous spat in an electoral district just outside Brussels escalated out of control, demonstrations ended in violent confrontations with police. Senior government ministers cancelled all other work for emergency negotiations, but failed to broker a deal over the weekend.

“It is clear — there is no progress,” Laurette Onkelink, the Francophone Socialist vice-premier said.

The unresolved dispute will now be handed over to the federal parliament to try to broker a deal.

“For the Government, for the majority and the country, this week will be pivotal,” Johan Vande Lanotte, the Institutional Reform Minister, said.

Such is the anger on both sides of the linguistic divide that the French-language Le Soir newspaper wondered on its front page: “Is Belgium finished?”

The linguistic schism is so deep that no political party yet straddles the language divide. There are two separate Socialist parties, one French and one Flemish, a dialect of Dutch. There are two national theatres, and universities and hospitals are either French or Flemish, with doctors sending patients to a particular hospital on the basis of their language.

Belgium — the last surviving artificially created state in Europe after the collapse of the Soviet Union, Czechoslovakia and Yugoslavia — has tried to resolve the tensions by dividing itself into three semi-independent regions. In the north is the Flemish-speaking Flanders, where the largest political party is the separatist Vlaams Berlang; in the south, the poorer French-speaking Waloonia; and embedded within Flanders is Brussels, the only region of the country that is officially bilingual, although in practice it is more than 80 per cent Francophone.

The latest dispute has arisen because Brussels is surrounded by a commuter belt in Flemish territory and French-speakers living there want to have the same language rights as if they lived in Brussels.

In Flemish communities, all official business and advertising has to be in Flemish, making it difficult for French-speakers to have dealings with their local authority.

The Flemish, who make up 60 per cent of the 10.5 million population, complain that in many areas, most notably Brussels, French is taking over. Brussels was historically a Flemish city — and is still the capital of the Flanders region, as well as the national capital — but it has become almost totally Francophone, making the Flemish resentful that they have difficulty using their own language in their own capital.


TOPICS: Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: belgium; dutch; flemish; french; language; walloons
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Schadenfreude, anyone? What I find amusing is that Belgium cannot successfully unite its two communities, yet it is the capital of the EU project, which wants to unite many more countries and language groups and actually believes it can work.

THus you may not have to be insane to believe in the EU, but it apparently helps.

Regards, Ivan


1 posted on 05/08/2005 11:43:05 PM PDT by MadIvan
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To: LadyofShalott; Tolik; mtngrl@vrwc; pax_et_bonum; Alkhin; agrace; EggsAckley; dinasour; ...

Ping!


2 posted on 05/08/2005 11:43:19 PM PDT by MadIvan (One blog to bring them all...and in the Darkness bind them: http://www.theringwraith.com/)
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To: MadIvan
making the Flemish resentful that they have difficulty using their own language in their own capital.

Coming soon to a U.S. state near you!

3 posted on 05/08/2005 11:45:49 PM PDT by Flyer (If I were 8 pixels tall I could fit in my tag line)
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To: MadIvan
So long as the brewing industry isn't affected, I don't care which second-rate language they use, or whether they kiss and make up ("for the sake of the EU") or not.

Just had my first Chimay Blue-top today - VERY nice.
4 posted on 05/08/2005 11:46:40 PM PDT by decal ("The French should stick to kisses, toast and fries.")
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To: MadIvan

Why in the world would anybody want to bother with a dead language like "Flemish"?


5 posted on 05/08/2005 11:48:39 PM PDT by tahotdog
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To: MadIvan

There is a simple solution, they should just ban both languages and make them speak English. As a bonus, it would make everything a lot easier for American tourists.


6 posted on 05/08/2005 11:49:05 PM PDT by byset
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To: tahotdog
Flemish is a variant of Dutch...some of the vocabulary and pronunciation is different. And it's a better choice than French, I assure you.

Regards, Ivan

7 posted on 05/08/2005 11:49:40 PM PDT by MadIvan (One blog to bring them all...and in the Darkness bind them: http://www.theringwraith.com/)
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To: byset
Most Belgian websites have English as an option already.

Regards, Ivan

8 posted on 05/08/2005 11:50:15 PM PDT by MadIvan (One blog to bring them all...and in the Darkness bind them: http://www.theringwraith.com/)
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To: MadIvan

Europeans should put trifles aside and unite under the banner of Christianity, and kick all the undesirable immigrant elements out of the cradle of civilization.

The EU is bad for Europe as it portends integration, or sameness, which will result in socialist immigration policies. The continent must be protected from the trash of the third world and unite. Christianity of all denominations can, and should, do that or in 100 years is gonna look like the United States.


9 posted on 05/08/2005 11:50:46 PM PDT by Baraonda (Demographic is destiny. Don't hire 3rd world illegal aliens nor support businesses that hire them.)
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Unfortunately, it seems more likely that they will band together with the Muslims and kick the Christians out.


10 posted on 05/08/2005 11:54:32 PM PDT by byset
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To: decal

Belgian beer is over-rated!


11 posted on 05/08/2005 11:54:33 PM PDT by gr8eman (I think...therefore I am...a capitalist!)
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To: tahotdog

"Why in the world would anybody want to bother with a dead language like "Flemish"?

Well, if over 6 million people speak it, it's hardly dead, now is it.


12 posted on 05/08/2005 11:54:37 PM PDT by chaosagent (It's all right to be crazy. Just don't let it drive you nuts.)
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To: MadIvan

I love how the French language continues to be marginalized!

What does it profit a country now, anyway?


13 posted on 05/08/2005 11:55:31 PM PDT by ConservativeMind
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To: MadIvan

I will give my pat reply on this type of topic - Screw the French


14 posted on 05/08/2005 11:55:35 PM PDT by Nov3 ("This is the best election night in history." --DNC chair Terry McAuliffe Nov. 2,2004 8p.m.)
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To: gr8eman

I, uh, respectfully disagree...


15 posted on 05/08/2005 11:58:28 PM PDT by decal ("The French should stick to kisses, toast and fries.")
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To: byset

Yes, whomever "they" is.


16 posted on 05/09/2005 12:00:46 AM PDT by Baraonda (Demographic is destiny. Don't hire 3rd world illegal aliens nor support businesses that hire them.)
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To: MadIvan

Puts me in mind of an old Python skit, where Palin was trying to think up ethnic insults for the Belgians: Flems!


17 posted on 05/09/2005 12:06:23 AM PDT by Clemenza (I am NOT A NUMBER, I am a FREE MAN!!!)
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To: MadIvan
Schadenfreude, anyone? What I find amusing is that Belgium cannot successfully unite its two communities, yet it is the capital of the EU project, which wants to unite many more countries and language groups and actually believes it can work.

That nails it. If Belgium can't unite it's own two ethnic groups, what do they think will happen with all of Europe? Good old Europe, that's had two near-suicidial wars in the last century, and Belgium is the EU capital now.

It does seem like Europe is determined to eventually destroy itself, and all we can hope is that they don't drag Britain down with them this time.

18 posted on 05/09/2005 12:06:39 AM PDT by xJones
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To: MadIvan; HiJinx
Hmmmm...reminds me of something....


19 posted on 05/09/2005 12:08:38 AM PDT by Travis McGee (----- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com -----)
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To: Travis McGee

WE're checking to see if they get the Billboards changed.


20 posted on 05/09/2005 12:13:55 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (This tagline no longer operative....floated away in the flood of 2005 ,)
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