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THE WORLD SPINNING FROM A DEPOPULATION CRISIS
Real Women of Canada ^

Posted on 05/08/2005 1:35:03 PM PDT by Bushwacker777

"Europe has been experiencing terrible problems because of the decline in its birth rates. Never have birth and fertility rates fallen so low for so long, in so many places, as they have in Europe, which has seen 45 consecutive years of fertility decline. As a result, the European Union expects to suffer a net loss of 70 million people by 2050."

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; Foreign Affairs
KEYWORDS: carryingcapacity; europe; genocide; overpopulation; population; populationbomb
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To: the invisib1e hand

I don't think abortion is the reason for depopulation or declining populations. It has more to do with the wealth of these societies - Japan, U.S., Canada, Europe. The richer a society becomes the birth rate drops. The main reason seems to be women in the workforce. These women tend to have fewer children - either because they have children later in life and therefore have fewer kids or they do not want children to interfere with their careers. In poor countries, including most Mulsim societies, women rarely work outside the home. Women who live this way tend to have more kids. As opportunities slowly open up for women in these societies they will have fewer kids. It's already happening in some countries.


21 posted on 05/08/2005 3:58:29 PM PDT by DHerion
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To: Bushwacker777

There was an article in this week's paper about zero population growth among the Japanese too.


22 posted on 05/08/2005 4:27:58 PM PDT by lilylangtree (Veni, Vidi, Vici)
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To: Bushwacker777

this is one of the reasons why the u.s. government overlooked illegal immigration for fear that our own economy would be affected by a birth decline. the u.s. birth rate fell to 1.7 in 1978, where a 2.1 is necessary for an even replacement.


23 posted on 05/08/2005 4:33:18 PM PDT by ken21 (if you didn't see it on tv, then it didn't happen. /s)
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To: bikepacker67

Not in my house.


24 posted on 05/08/2005 4:33:28 PM PDT by Thebaddog (Dawgs off the coffee table.)
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To: Bushwacker777

,,, once a country is "blessed" with a high standard of living it seems low population growth follows.


25 posted on 05/08/2005 4:44:28 PM PDT by shaggy eel
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To: struwwelpeter

Is it?


26 posted on 05/08/2005 4:44:56 PM PDT by A. Pole (Ukrainian proverb: "Iak buly moskali, buv khlib na stoli, a iak bude Ukraina, bude bida po kolina")
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To: paul_fromatlanta

the fact is that the "population bomb" has fizzled, permanently. Even in countries that are "overpopulated", the birth rates are in decline. Yet you can still find Zero Population Growth doomsayers worried about overpopulating the planet.


27 posted on 05/08/2005 4:47:01 PM PDT by Flash Bazbeaux ("I'll have the moo goo gai pan without the pan, and some pans.")
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To: Bushwacker777
Fertility rates are declining all over the world. Tunisa already has below replacement level fertility and Algeria and Morocco are not too far behind it. And these are the countries that are supposed to take over Europe by colonization. I have stated more that a few times that by 2050 Europe will need immigrants but won't be able to find them.
28 posted on 05/08/2005 4:51:04 PM PDT by CzarNicky (The problem with bad ideas is that they seemed like good ideas at the time.)
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To: Flash Bazbeaux

Even PBS concedes that the population bomb has fizzled:

Here's a google search result, and what you get when you click on the link:


Paul Ehrlich and The Population Bomb
This PBS companion site offers facts about dwindling natural resources, teaching tools about population growth, and suggestions for becoming involved.www.pbs.org/kqed/population_bomb/ - 19k - May 6, 2005 - Cached - Similar pages

Retired Site

The "Paul Ehrlich and the Population Bomb" site has been retired from pbs.org.

To find related content on pbs.org, try a keyword search, visit a related topic area using the pulldown menu at the top of this page, or browse our Programs A-Z menu.


29 posted on 05/08/2005 4:51:39 PM PDT by Flash Bazbeaux ("I'll have the moo goo gai pan without the pan, and some pans.")
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To: A. Pole

When there's bread on the table ;-)


30 posted on 05/08/2005 4:56:10 PM PDT by struwwelpeter
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To: Bushwacker777

I know we can whip this problem if we all just get out there and ... work on it!


31 posted on 05/08/2005 4:57:53 PM PDT by VadeRetro (Liberalism is a cancer on society. Creationism is a cancer on conservatism.)
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To: bikepacker67

Or tight-fitting underwear.


32 posted on 05/08/2005 4:58:34 PM PDT by July 4th (A vacant lot cancelled out my vote for Bush.)
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To: Bushwacker777

Maybe they ought to make abortions ILLEGAL!


33 posted on 05/08/2005 5:07:25 PM PDT by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God).)
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To: Rodney King
In societies where people paid their own way through life, de-popualtion would not be a big deal.

Well capitalist economies depend on growth. So depopulation would be a pretty big deal anywhere. It may be much worse in a socialist society, I agree.

34 posted on 05/08/2005 5:13:21 PM PDT by Jack Black
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To: DHerion
I don't think abortion is the reason for depopulation or declining populations.

So, you think there is no connection between the acceptance of abortion and the role of women in general -- in the workforce or elsewhere, not to mention the prevailing attitude toward children, families, men, and the purpose of procreation?

You are speaking of but another symptom.

35 posted on 05/08/2005 5:13:51 PM PDT by the invisib1e hand (In Honor of Terri Schiavo. *check my FReeppage for the link* Let it load and have the sound on.)
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To: Jack Black
Well capitalist economies depend on growth.

Hmmmm... we better get that Mars colony thingy going then...

36 posted on 05/08/2005 5:17:00 PM PDT by bikepacker67
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To: DennisR
Cannot imagine how this could be true. It's just that people in Western society have become so self-centered ("it's all about me") since the 60s that they might see children - a blessing from God - as an annoyance. Sad and sick.

Yeah, we have tossed a lot of our priorities and morals for the sake of hedonism and we are going to pay for it. Along with the hedonism, it costs a lot to raise children although we can alleviate that with a better tax policy. I remember in the 1980's, West Germany had a programs called "Kindergeld" (Child Money) where the government gave people money to have kids to stem the population shrinkage but even that did not help. Russia today has made abortion past 12 weeks illegal (except in the case of the mother's life) for the same reason.

I keep thinking back to what Michael Savage said, paraphrasing, that "if we don't get back to our values, we deserve to lose to the Islamo-Fascists." A bit crass I know, but all I can say is we need a religious revival in this country and the Western world in general to where we get back to our core values. The 1960's "free love" liberal movement is a cancer on our society that we still feel today.
37 posted on 05/08/2005 5:27:33 PM PDT by Nowhere Man (Lutheran, Conservative, Neo-Victorian/Edwardian, Michael Savage in '08! - Any Questions?)
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To: Flash Bazbeaux

>>the fact is that the "population bomb" has fizzled, permanently. Even in countries that are "overpopulated", the birth rates are in decline. Yet you can still find Zero Population Growth doomsayers worried about overpopulating the planet.<<

I haven't seen any studies like that - got any links I should look at? Unless something has changed recently, the CIA is still projecting exponential world population growth.

The US census bureau also seems to be projecting great population growth (over 9 billion by 2050).
http://www.census.gov/ipc/www/worldpop.html


38 posted on 05/08/2005 6:04:47 PM PDT by paul_fromatlanta
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To: paul_fromatlanta
"Europe is not the world."
Well, it is their world spinning.
39 posted on 05/08/2005 7:32:32 PM PDT by GSlob
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To: bikepacker67
Hey, look. I was so freeking close to Chernyoble, my private parts glow. And I can't use a computer but for a couple of minutes at a time.

But I have three kids, one dun-coloured, one blonde, and one re_.......................

40 posted on 05/08/2005 7:36:12 PM PDT by patton ("Fool," said my Muse to me, "look in thy heart, and write.")
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