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Desperate for revenues, Detroit ponders fast-food tax
AP ^ | 5-8-05 | Sarah Karush

Posted on 05/08/2005 9:35:26 AM PDT by Dan from Michigan

Desperate for revenues, Detroit ponders fast-food tax 5/8/2005, 9:15 a.m. ET
By SARAH KARUSH
The Associated Press

DETROIT (AP) — Would you like fries with that? Either way, the Detroit city treasury would like a bite.

Faced with a $300 million budget hole, and with traditional revenue-raising options largely exhausted, Mayor Kwame Kilpatrick is hoping people won't mind forking over a few extra cents for their Big Macs and Whoppers.

Kilpatrick is preparing to ask Detroit voters to approve a 2 percent fast-food tax — on top of the 6 percent state sales tax already applied to restaurant meals. The mayor says consumers will barely notice the slight increase at the cash register, but critics say the tax would unfairly burden the poor and hamper economic development in the city.

Other cities and states have special taxes on prepared food, and some have tried "snack taxes" on foods such as cookies and chips. In New York, Assemblyman Felix Ortiz has proposed a 1 percent tax on junk food, video games and TV commercials to fund anti-obesity programs. But the Detroit assessment would be the country's first tax specifically targeting fast-food establishments if approved, the National Restaurant Association said.

Opponents of the Detroit idea have been quick to call it a "fat tax" — a penalty on unhealthy foods. Men's Health Magazine dubbed Detroit the nation's fattest city in 2004, though it slid to No. 3 in the 2005 rankings.

However, the tax would apply not only to fat-laden burgers, fries and desserts, but to anything sold at a fast-food establishment, even salads. City officials say the proposal, part of the draft budget Kilpatrick presented to the City Council last month, is more about Detroit's financial health than anything else.

Although the tax would not come close to fixing Detroit's financial problems — officials predict it would bring in $17 million in the next fiscal year — every dollar counts in a city already bracing for mass layoffs and service cuts.

Enacting the tax would likely require a change in state law. That could be a tough sell in the Republican-controlled Legislature, though city officials say they're confident they'll win the battle.

Kilpatrick's next hurdle would be convincing Detroit voters to give the necessary approval.

"Just tell him we're going to go to Bloomfield Hills to McDonald's if he puts a tax on it," said Ebony Ellis, 18, referring to the affluent Detroit suburb, as she and four friends ate at a Golden Arches in Detroit. The high school classmates eat at McDonald's every day after school because their schedule doesn't leave them time for lunch.

Young people and senior citizens are big consumers of fast food and would bear an unfair share of the tax's burden, some critics contend.

"It's really going to fall upon poor people harder," said Robert Wassmer, a professor of public policy and economics at California State University, Sacramento. Not only would the tax be regressive, but a lack of transportation could make it harder for some low-income residents to cross city boundaries to escape the tax, he said.

The restaurant industry says the idea is also unfair to businesses.

"We think it's extremely counterproductive to say to those people who have provided jobs, who have provided growth, `We're going to levy on you a special tax that we don't levy on anyone else,'" said Andy Deloney, public affairs director of the Michigan Restaurant Association.

But Kilpatrick insists an additional 2 percent — or a nickel on a $2.50 Big Mac — would have little effect on the pocketbooks of the average resident or the competitiveness of Detroit eateries.

"It's not really prohibitive," he said. "It doesn't overburden the family."

And the fact is there aren't many other options.

"With Detroit, you're kind of grasping at straws because the tax base is so tapped into," Wassmer said.

The city currently has five major revenue streams: state revenue sharing, an income tax, property taxes, a tax on its three casinos and a utility tax.

Michigan law limits Detroit's ability to raise income and property taxes. Few argue that such increases would help anyway: High taxes are frequently cited as a major reason residents and businesses have fled the city, further depleting the tax base.

In a study by the District of Columbia comparing Washington and the biggest cities in each state, Detroit in 2003 had the 10th-highest tax burden for a family of four with an income of $75,000. The total burden of state and local taxes combined equaled 11 percent, according to the study.

In addition to the fast-food tax, Kilpatrick also plans to ask voters to approve a property transfer tax, a flat $250 to $500 fee that would be split by the buyer and seller.

Other options, such as a municipal sales tax, might damage Detroit's efforts to revitalize itself after decades of population decline and business flight, Kilpatrick said.

The same goes for an overall meals tax not limited to fast food, Deputy Mayor Anthony Adams said. The mayor likes to boast that 22 new restaurants have opened downtown in the last three years. A tax on all restaurants might hamper this fledgling development, while the city's fast-food market is "pretty mature," Adams said.

Just how does one define the fast-food market? Besides the obvious chains like Wendy's and White Castle, officials have mentioned takeout pizza places and Detroit's ubiquitous chili dog restaurants known as Coney Islands.

But what about American Coney Island, a downtown establishment that has table service despite its simple and speedy fare? What about Starbucks or the corner deli? The administration says it is still working on a definition.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; News/Current Events; US: Michigan
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To: Dan from Michigan
Maybe they could also tax the popcorn sold in all of Detroit's movie theaters? This could raise a small fortune.
21 posted on 05/08/2005 10:21:38 AM PDT by Mark was here (My tag line was about to be censored.)
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To: CurlyDave

There are actually. Some downtown, the riverfront, and over in the Palmer Woods section.


22 posted on 05/08/2005 10:27:44 AM PDT by Dan from Michigan ("Get in the ring!")
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To: Dan from Michigan
This is just too juicy!


"Michigan law limits Detroit's ability to raise income and property taxes. Few argue that such increases would help anyway: High taxes are frequently cited as a major reason residents and businesses have fled the city, further depleting the tax base.

Not to mention the crime rates. Shhhh ... don't mention the crime rates.


"In addition to the fast-food tax, Kilpatrick also plans to ask voters to approve a property transfer tax, a flat $250 to $500 fee that would be split by the buyer and seller."

That way they can get the goobers who move in, and the poor souls with sanity who move out.

You get 'em Kwame. You da man! ;)

23 posted on 05/08/2005 10:41:07 AM PDT by G.Mason ( Because Free Republic obviously needed another opinionated big mouth ... Proud NRA member)
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To: Dan from Michigan
Our elected officials are just looking for easy new sources of taxes. Like cigarettes and booze the politicians can make claims that this fast food tax is for health reasons i.e. to "save the children" from obesity. This is the ultimate hypocrisy.
24 posted on 05/08/2005 10:58:28 AM PDT by The Great RJ
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To: Enterprise
Sounds like Detroit is being ruled by third world leaders.

The city is being run into the ground by a hip-hop mayor who drives around in a tricked out SUV.

25 posted on 05/08/2005 11:05:00 AM PDT by 12 Gauge Mossberg (I Approved This Posting - Paid For By Mossberg, Inc.)
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To: Dan from Michigan

executions will continue until moral improves

taxes will increase until revenues rise.

It the municipality confiscated 110% of all property and moneys it still would not be enough.


26 posted on 05/08/2005 11:07:11 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE!)
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To: All

if wolfgang puck can call a pizza "pizza" by putting a mere three DROPS (literally) of tomato sauce, then I am sure these "fast food" owners can either slooooow down the "fast" (if fast is 2 minutes then food is delivered 2 minutes plus one second) or nutrition, then sprinkle 1 GRAIN of wheat germ on the food and make it "healthy".

Perhaps someone should think about just buying detroit for the "free state" project.


27 posted on 05/08/2005 11:12:46 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE!)
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To: Mrs Mark
Maybe they could also tax the popcorn sold in all of Detroit's movie theaters? This could raise a small fortune.

Small is right. There are no movie theatres or department stores in Detroit.

28 posted on 05/08/2005 11:13:50 AM PDT by Hillary's Lovely Legs (If Barbie is so popular, why do you have to buy her friends?)
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To: 12 Gauge Mossberg

I met someone who fled detroit, he said some unrepeatable descriptions about the current "race baiting leadership" and insider corruption.


I get the impression, they WANT everyone of the "wrong skin color" to leave (ala Mandella's South Africa) so they can just "take" the abandoned properties or buy them at fire sale prices.


29 posted on 05/08/2005 11:15:24 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE!)
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To: Hillary's Lovely Legs

I wonder what is left?

WIll it get so bad that Michigan unicorporates the city?


30 posted on 05/08/2005 11:17:11 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE!)
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To: Vn_survivor_67-68
Big cities like Detroit received billions of dollars since the Great Society's inception and have zilch to show for it.

Most of the money went to corrupt city council members, administrators, unions, and others who hide behind the "city official" banner.

31 posted on 05/08/2005 11:19:49 AM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist (Harmful Or Fatal If Swallowed)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

it only gets worse since detroit has a shrinking population so it gets LESS federal dollars. Less in school, less from feds.


32 posted on 05/08/2005 11:21:53 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE!)
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To: Dan from Michigan
"Just tell him we're going to go to Bloomfield Hills to McDonald's if he puts a tax on it," said Ebony Ellis, 18, referring to the affluent Detroit suburb, as she and four friends ate at a Golden Arches in Detroit. The high school classmates eat at McDonald's every day after school because their schedule doesn't leave them time for lunch.

No way. I'm calling BS on this one.
33 posted on 05/08/2005 11:22:52 AM PDT by Xenalyte (I am at Dr. Venture's lab to right that which is wrong and to repair the torn curtain of time itself)
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To: Dan from Michigan
They do tax restaurant meals all over the country but now they want to tax fast food in Detroit. An extra nickel - guess what? That means higher prices every time you buy a burger and fries. Now rich people like Kwaeme Kilpatrick might not notice it but average people do. In Michigan, there's 11 percent in combined tax burden, state and local before you buy. In stories like this one, a city's always crying poverty and they need to raise taxes to close a self-inflicted deficit, but there's NEVER a mention of cutting taxes. I guess they haven't heard of Reaganomics yet in Motor City. For example, the much loathed Bush tax cuts brought in a surge of federal revenue. And yet for liberals, stimulating the economy by allowing people to keep more of their dollars so they can invest and save as they choose is ALWAYS an unthinkable option. Detroit is a town where to put it simply, politicians can't think outside the box as far as spending and taxes are concerned. Hey, just tax the Big Mac and fries and we'll be OK.

(Denny Crane: "Sometimes you can only look for answers from God and failing that... and Fox News".)
34 posted on 05/08/2005 11:24:06 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: Dan from Michigan

Coming soon: surtaxes on Newports and "Forties." $$$!


35 posted on 05/08/2005 11:31:26 AM PDT by Snickersnee (Where are we going? And what's with this handbasket?)
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To: Dan from Michigan

Ha! If Mayor Kwame really wanted to raise more revenue to throw down the rathole that the city of Detroit has become, he's slap a hefty tax on any bottle of Mickey's Malt carried out as a short dog in a brown bag.


36 posted on 05/08/2005 11:33:37 AM PDT by XXXXX88XXXXX
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To: New Orleans Slim

You mean poo-poos? ;-)


37 posted on 05/08/2005 11:41:20 AM PDT by stands2reason (It's 2005, and two wrongs still don't make a right.)
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To: Dan from Michigan

Oh bloody hell! How about this TAX? I want to put a tax on all communists, socialists, terrorists, traitors. murderers, rapists, child sex offenders, and anyone else serving life without parole and people on the death penalty

100% of their income. Should eliminate the entire Demonseptic party and take care of our national budget for years and years to come. Hell, might even solve our national deficit! Sounds like a good idea to me!


38 posted on 05/08/2005 11:45:58 AM PDT by Killborn (Russian roulette with a Loaded Semi-Auto,)
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To: Dan from Michigan
In New York, Assemblyman Felix Ortiz has proposed a 1 percent tax on junk food, video games and TV commercials to fund anti-obesity programs.

How in the world would you tax TV commercials?

Mark

39 posted on 05/08/2005 11:47:38 AM PDT by MarkL (I've got a fever, and the only prescription is MORE COWBELL!!!)
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To: Dan from Michigan
I say that they impose an additional 5% tax on the wages of these politicians. And it could be called the "Stupid Tax!"

Mark

40 posted on 05/08/2005 11:50:05 AM PDT by MarkL (I've got a fever, and the only prescription is MORE COWBELL!!!)
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